========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1991 09:09:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: AL CARDINALE Subject: Postmodern feminism article I hve just received the latest issue of COLLEGE ENGLISH, Volume 53, Number 8, and there is an article by Teresa Ebert called "The 'Difference' of Postmodern Feminism." I thought I would post this for all interested parties. I am also hoping that some of you would engage me in conversation about the article and our need to create an egalitarian environment. Also, does anyone have any data on returning adult learners. Specifically, marginalized women...causes and cures. I work part-time in an EOP program, and most of thestudents I help are adult women. These students are highly motivated, but they arrive on the scene with a variety of self-esteem problems that disables learning. I am sad to say that the behavior (generally) seems to have been instilled by constrictive male figures or male dominated environments. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Al Cardinale ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1991 09:14:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: AL CARDINALE Subject: Re: sorry! I forgot to enter my bitnet address.......sorry for taking valuable space with this message. Al Cardinale ACARDINA@SNYESCVA ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1991 18:47:27 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Resent-From: Allan Hunter Comments: Originally-From: "robbin stewart" From: Allan Hunter Subject: scum I've been asked to forward any replies I received re: Valerie Solanas. I've received no replies. To repeat -- has anyone heard anything from, or about, Valerie Solanas since the early 70's? Inquiring minds wanna know... -- allan hunter ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- hi! a close friend of mine has been wondering for years whatever happened to valerie solonis; if you find out could you drop me a note? (i don't usuall y read the wmstds list so might miss a reply) Thanks! - robbin ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1991 20:02:36 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter Subject: Valerie Solanas Recently, I asked if anyone had heard anything from, or about, Valerie Solanas, who at the age of 24 in 1970 or thereabouts wrote the SCUM Manifesto. I've been asked to pass along any replies to others inter- ested in the same. I've received no replies. Once again: anyone know what happened with her since those days? -- Allan Hunter ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1991 21:17:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Six job openings I have received word of the following six job openings. For more information, please contact the people named in the announcements, not WMST-L or me. Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc or @umbc2.umbc.edu) ************************************************************ 1) The Women's Studies Program at California State University, Fresno, invites applicants for a tenure-track position as coordinator and assistant/associate/ or professor of Women's Studies. Successful candidates will be expected to have had academic leadership experience and experience in teaching general education women's studies courses or related courses in other disciplines. They should also have demonstrated an ability to relate to an ethnically diverse student population. Placement on the salary is dependent on professional experience. Correspondence, applications, and confidential papers should be sent to: Lillian Faderman, Acting Coordinator, Women's Studies Program, California State University, Fresno, CA 93740. To ensure full consideration, applicants are encouraged to have all information on file by December 16, 1991. ************************************************************* 2) University of Michigan - Flint. Search reopened. The department of Sociology seeks applications and nominations for a tenure-track Assistant Professor position. The ideal candidate would be able to teach Sociology of the Family, Gender and Society, and Introductory Sociology on a regular basis. In addition they would be expected to contribute to an interdisciplinary Women and Gender Studies program. Interest and experience in qualitative research is desirable. We would especially be interested in someone whose major research focus is the links among class, race, and gender. Secondary interests in Lesbian and Gay Male Studies, Social Policy, Social Change, and/or Education would be helpful. Normal teaching load is three courses per semester. There is also an opportunity for graduate level teaching in the MLS in American Culture program. Applicants must demonstrate both a dedication to quality teaching and a strong commitment to scholarly research. College teaching experience is desirable. Send letter expressing interest and indicating future research plans, curriculum vitae, and three letters of reference to: George Lord, Chair, Search Committee, Department of Sociology, University of Michigan - Flint, Flint, MI 48502-2186. Review of applications will begin December 15, 1991. Ph.D. required by September 1992. Minorities, women, and physically challenged persons are especially encouraged to apply. UM-Flint is an affirmative action/equal opportunity employer. ********************************************************* 3) University of Iowa Libraries, Curator of the Iowa Women's Archives. Salary: $29,400-$40,000. Requirements: A graduate library degree from an ALA-accredited program, appropriate archival training, or the equivalent; prior archival experience in an academic or research institution; knowledge of women's history; demonstrated administrative and leadership abilities; excellent oral and written communication skills; and demonstrated commitment to professional involvement. The candidate must be willing to travel, especially within the state. Graduate study or a graduate degree in an appropriate field; knowledge of bibliographic description and control; familiarity with the US-MARC AMC format are desired. Description: New position whose primary responsibilities will be to collect, organize, describe, manage, and preserve personal papers and organizational records pertaining to Iowa women. The Curator will have the initial responsibility of formulating a collection development policy, and ongoing responsibility for planning for the processing and preservation of collections, and the development and provision of reference, research, and instructional services. The Iowa Women's Archives will be located in a separate facility within the Main Library and the Curator will report to the Head, Department of Special Collections. The Curator will have the support of one support staff and student assistants. The Curator will be expected to devote considerable effort to identifying and soliciting donations of materials for the archives and to publicizing its collections and programs. Contact: Barbara I. Dewey, Director, Administrative and Access Service, University of Iowa Library, Iowa City, IA 52242. Tel: (319) 335-5871. ************************************************************ 4) The Department of English at the University of Maryland at College Park invites applications for an Assistant Professorship in either the 19th century British novel or Prose by American Women, 1865-1945. For additional information, please contact: Search Committee Chair, Department of English, University of Maryland, College Park, Maryland 20742. The University of Maryland at College Park has a strong commitment to the principle of diversity. We are particularly interested in receiving applications from a broad spectrum of people, including women, members of ethnic minorities, and disabled individuals. ************************************************************** 5) The Women's Resources and Research Center and the Women's Studies Program at the University of California, Davis, are seeking applications for a 1992-93 Scholar-in-Residence. This year's topic is the social construction, organization, and cultural reproduction of sexualities. Research areas may include, but are not limited to, such topics as shifting constructions of masculinity and femininity, the regulation of sexualities and movements for sexual liberation, and struggles around sexual politics (e.g., reproductive rights and AIDS activism). The appointment carries a stipend based on the applicant's qualifications, previous experience, and time in residence at UCD. The term of residence may range from several weeks to a full quarter. No regular teaching is required but it might be arranged (given ample lead time and budgetary constraints) with the appropriate academic department for additional compensation. Scholars-in-Residence will be expected to do one or more of the following: give a public lecture, offer colloquia, and/or participate in a faculty research seminar series. The position offers the applicant an opportunity to conduct her or his own research and to contribute to the activities of the Women's Studies and the Women's Resources and Research Center community. Candidates in any field may apply. Women and men of color are especially encouraged to apply. Applicants should send their curriculum vitae, samples of their recent publications, two letters of reference, and statements about their current research and teaching interests, and their proposed work as a Scholar-in-Residence. The application deadline in February 17, 1992. Send applications to: Dr. Linda A. Morris, Director, Women's Resources and Research Center, University of California, Davis, CA 95616. AA/EOE ********************************************************** 6) [reprinted from HUMANIST] The Univ. of Winniepg, Dept. of Religious STudies, seeks a scholar whose teaching and research interests address gender-nuanced theoretical and interpretive issues in the cross-cultural study of religion. Specialization in a non-western culture is preferred, esp. East Asian/South Asian/Islamic traditions. The position (subject to budgetary approval) is tenure-track and will probably be filled at the Assist. Prof level Apps. at the Assoc. rank will, however, be considered. The starting date is Sept. 1, 1992 or a mutually agreed-upon date. Primary teaching responsibilities are at the undergraduate level with opportunities for occasional teaching and thesis supervision at the M.A. level. Candidates with a completed Ph.D. who can demonstrate both excellence in teaching and a commitment to research are preferred, though ABDs will be considered. The Univ. of Winnipeg is a small liberal arts and sciences univ. located in the ethnically diverse core of the city. The Dept. of Religious Studies operates internally on the principles of collegiality and cooperative decision-making, and offers both the advantages and disadvantages typical of a small dept. The application deadline is Feb. 28, 1992, though earlier application is strongly encouraged. Apps. should include a covering letter, curriculum vitae, 3 letters of reference, student evaluations of teaching (if possible) and one sample of the applicant's written work, and should be addressed to: Prof. Peggy Day, Chair, Search Committee, Dept. of Religious STudies, Univ. of Winnipeg, 515 Portage Ave., Winnipeg, Manitoba, R3B 2E9, Canada. ...................................................................... This notice courtesy of Larry Hurtado, Dept. of Religion, Univ. of Manitoba, Winnipeg. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1991 11:28:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: RE: WOMEN'S STUDIES CURRICULUM On Nov. 25, Barb Marshall (BMARSHALL@TRENTU.CA) wrote: > WE ARE A SMALL BUT GROWING WOMEN'S STUDIES PROGRAM AT A SMALL CANADIAN > UNIVERSITY. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 3 CORE, REQUIRED COURSES -- AN INTRODUCTORY > COURSE AT THE 2ND YEAR LEVEL (WS200), A THIRD-YEAR COURSE IN FEMINIST > THEORY (WS300) AND A FOURTR COURSE CALLED FEMINIST PRAXIS (WS400). > WE ARE PLANNING TO DEVELOP AN INTRODUCTORY COURSE FOR THE FIRST-YEAR > LEVEL, AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A SECOND-YEAR COURSE WHICH > WILL PROVIDE A BRIDGE FROM THE INTRODUCTORY LEVEL TO THE RATHER DEMANDING > THIRD-YEAR FEMINIST THEORY COURSE. WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AN ISSUE-ORIENTED > INTRODUCTION TO FEMINIST THEORY AND METHODOLOGY. > WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR CURRICULUM DESIGN, INCLUDING > COPIES OF YOUR WOMEN'S STUDIES CALENDARS, COURSE SYLLA This past year, the National Women's Studies Task Force on the Women's Studies Major issued a report entitled _Liberal Learning and the Women's Studies Major_. It includes a 24-page report on the major and extensive appendixes of sample syllabi for introductory Women's Studies courses, courses on race and gender, feminist theory courses, courses on women and science, and capstone courses. It also includes some models of the major, guidelines for cross-listing courses, internship designs, and a bibliography on feminist pedagogy. _Liberal Learning and the Women's Studies Major_ is available from the National Women's Studies Association in two versions, a 250-page volume that includes the appendixes for $12.50 and a 24-page booklet that includes just the report on the major without the appendixes for $2.00 (Maryland residents should add 5% tax). To order either volume, or for more information, contact the National Women's Studies Association, University of Maryland - College Park, College Park, MD 20742-1325. Tel: (301) 405-5573. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1991 15:37:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: GOLD@CTSTATEU.BITNET Subject: Textbook help ADVICE NEEDED FOR A NEW TEXTBOOK I am working on a textbook that will be published by Wadsworth press next fall, and I could use some advice. It's called MORAL CONTROVERSIES: A Multicultural Approach. While it is for an applied ethics class in a philosophy department, it has significant implications for women's studies both within philosophy departments, and in interdisciplinary work. PURPOSE: The book is intended to provide instructors in 'moral problems' courses with material that expresses diverse perspectives. Almost all of the books currently availiable use the same tired readings drawn from traditional white male sources. Rather than attempting to intergrate multicultural issues into a traditional framework, this text attempts to take a multicultural framework and integrate some traditional material for 'familiarity' and 'diologue' purposes (at the insistence of the publisher). TOPICS (rough outline): 1. Sexual and Reproductive Privacy - privacy theory - abortion - gay and lesbian rights - surrogate motherhood - AIDS 2. Criminal Justice - punishment and crime - death penalty - rape, acquaintance rape, and violence against women - pornography - prostitution 3. Economic Justice - distributive justice (theory, women and welfare, Native Americans, farm workers etc.) - affirmative action - comparable worth - sexual harassment These are the basic topics. I have already compiled over 150 articles and edited it down to 55. Anyone who wants more specifics let me know. Problems: 1. I need more material on women of color and people of color in general, in particular Asian American and Native American, and to some extent Latino material. 2. I am not entirely sure of the organizational structure. 3. The publisher is pushing hard to use more traditional white male material to 'sell' to your average philosopher, I have already compromised more than I want to. I understand that there is no point in publishing a text that no one, or only the few real lefties will buy. Hence, I have included some familiar traditional material. But I refuse to so water it down that the multicultural approach is seriously compromised. I'll stop whining. Any suggestions ASAP would be grately appreciated. peace Steve Gold GOLD@CTSTATEU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1991 14:18:56 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MCBROOMED@AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU Subject: "Finding Voice" I will be teaching a women's studies culminating seminar soon on the theme: "Finding Voice for Women and People of Color". I would like to know what printed materials exist for this subject and would appreciate any suggestions that subscribers on this LIST might have for me. I am particularly interested in differences between genders in discourse; difficulties of people of color in America when they write for the academic sphere; and instances of people building a constituency or movement around issues that represent their concerns and particular voice. P;lease address comments to: MCBROOMED@axe.humboldt.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1991 16:37:22 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary Kay Schleiter Subject: general educatio n help I am on a committee which is revising the university-wide core requirements. Unfortunately, the committee as a whole is very traditional (or, less tactfully, backward) with regards to both women's studies and diversity issues in general. The required courses being developed reflect this perspective -- for example, two sample course designs were distributed today. One of them, for a course entitled "Perspectives on Great Ideas in Literature" lists a large number of readings, including Augustine, Aquinas, Dewey, Marx, Paul Tillich, etc. Out of 25 authors mentioned, only 2 are women -- Dorothy Day and Simone Weil. Only 1 person of color is mentioned -- Martin Luther King. The other course lists 12 authors, including such names as Tolstoy, Locke, Socrates, and Thoreau. No women are listed. Ghandi, Mandela, and ML King are mentioned. All of the proposed courses seem to have a similar perspective. These courses could have just as easily been designed in the 1950's as the 1990's. As one of only 2 vocal women on this 19 member committee (there are 2 other women who don't say anything) and one of 2 untenured members of the committee, I have little influence on what goes on. The general response to my ideas is, "Those of us who have been on this committee from the beginning . . ." and other such patronizing comments. My remarks, which have been low key up to now, also seem to provoke certain of the more arrogant members of the committee to break into a lecture on "higher values" and "educational quality." As a member of this committee, I feel a sense of responsibility for what it does, yet I also feel vulnerable and powerless. Any suggestions on what to do would be welcomed. Mary Kay mks@cs.uwp.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1991 18:19:15 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Richard A Weibl Subject: Re: "Finding Voice" In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 3 Dec 1991 14:18:56 -0800 Greetings...I am by no means broadly read in this area, but I have found bell hooks works have been exceptional in helping some better understand the tensions and possibilities of a women's movement that listens to the experiences and stories of African American women. Particularly _Talking Back, Talking Black_ and _Feminist Theory: From Margin to Center_. Best wishes.. Richard (Ric) Weibl rweibl@magnus.ohio-state.edu Educational Policy & Leadership, rweibl@osu.edu Center for Teaching Excellence The Ohio State University (614) 292-4976 "...to read does not oblige one to understand. First it is necessary to read, avoid understanding too quickly." Lacan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1991 18:20:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Helen M. Raisz/Institute of Gerontology" Subject: RE: Czech contacts SWS, SOCIOLOGISTS FOR women in society would probably contribute a subscription to Gender and Society. I know I would support such an effort. Ask your colleague Pat martin, I think she is at USF, if not, I'll get her correct address. \ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1991 21:49:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: GR0RY@USU.BITNET Subject: needs assessment First, let me introduce myself. I am a doctoral student in educational research and evaluation at Utah State University. This quarter I am in a class on Needs Assessment. It has got me wondering what is really going on out in the real world, especially in women's studies. So, I thought I'd survey my fellow network subscribers. Please reply to the following questions to my bitnet address ( Gr0ry@usu ) ... That is a zero in Gr0ry. I will post a summary of the results to the net. Thank you for your help. Beth Walden 1. How often do you participate in a needs assessment? 2. What percentage of needs assessment that should be done, would you guess, are actually done? 3. Under what circumstances do you think a needs assessment should be done? 4. What do you think is the attitude about needs assessment at your institution and in your department? What is your attitude? 5. What, in your opinion, is the difference between needs assessment and evaluation (both formative and summative evaluation)? () Beth Walden gr0ry@cc.usu.edu []\ Utah State University gr0ry@usu.bitnet />___ Logan, UT 84322-1900 (801) 753-0080 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 07:17:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "JANIS BOHAN (556-3088/3205, MSC BOX 54)" Subject: WOMEN IN HISTORY OF PSYCH I'm trying to get the word out about a book of readings just published (by Kendall/Hunt, whose marketing budget is roughly zilch) intended as a supplement for History and Systems of Psych courses -- texts for which still exclude women. The book takes a constructionist approach, and includes some wonderful articles, and actually might be useful in other courses as well. Anyone who's interested in taking a look at it can contact Kendall/Hunt directly, call or EMAIL me and I'll see that you get more information, an exam copy, whatever. The book is called "Re-Placing Women in Psychology: Readings Toward a More Inclusive History." Janis Bohan "Bohan@MSCD.BITNET" (303)556-3088 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 13:35:36 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Donna Fyfe Subject: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 24 Nov 1991 22:37:00 EST from Please unsubscribe me from the list. Donna Fyfe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 13:43:57 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Nancy Tuana Subject: Affirmative Action The women faculty at the University of Texas at Dallas are trying to convince our upper administration that changes are needed in the current implementation of AA/EEOC. We would appreciate information on other campuses who have conducted workshops on affirmative action, advancing an atmosphere for equal opportunity on campus, sexual harassment, etc., along with informa- tion on the AA/EEOC policies of other schools. If you know of helpful litera- ture on this topic, or addresses/phone numbers please let me know. Nancy Tuana TUANA@UTDALLAS.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 17:23:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DONNA set mail ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 17:43:18 GMT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Converted from OfficeVision to RFC822 by PUMP V2.2X From: "Linda Lopez McAlister/Hypatia" Subject: Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty *** Resending note of 12/04/91 16:50 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6904; Wed, 04 Dec 91 16:50:07 GMT Received: from MITVMA by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 3776; Wed, 04 Dec 91 16:49:16 EST Received: from mc.lcs.mit.edu by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 04 Dec 91 16:49:14 EST Received: from mc by mc.lcs.mit.edu id aa14439; 4 Dec 91 15:41 EST Received: from enet-gw.pa.dec.com by mc.lcs.mit.edu id aa14437; 4 Dec 91 15:38 EST Received: by enet-gw.pa.dec.com; id AA10797; Wed, 4 Dec 91 12:38:26 -0800 From: "dbang::carroll"@labrea.enet.dec.com Message-Id: <9112042038.AA10797@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> Received: from labrea.enet; by decwrl.enet; Wed, 4 Dec 91 12:38:30 PST Date: Wed, 4 Dec 91 12:38:30 PST To: sappho@mc.lcs.mit.edu Apparently-To: sappho@mc.lcs.mit.edu Saw this posted elsewhere and just loved it; here it is, forwarded with permission of the person who entered it last. D! d_carroll@tle.enet.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRACTICE RANDOM KINDENESS AND SENSELESS ACTS OF BEAUTY It's a crisp winter day in San Francisco. A woman in a red Honda, Christ- mas presents piled in the back, drives up to the Bay Bridge tollbooth. "I'm paying for myself, and for the six cars behind me," she says with a smile, handing over seven commuter tickets. One after another, the next six drivers arrive at the tollbooth, dollars in hand, only to be told, "Some lady up ahead already paid your fare. Have a nice day." The woman in the Honda, it turned out, had read something on an index card taped to a friend's refrigerator: "Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty." The phrase seemed to leap out at her, and she copied it down. Judy Foreman spotted the same phrase spray-painted on a warehouse wall a hundred miles from her home. When it stayed on her mind for days, she gave up and drove all the way back to copy it down. "I thought it was incredibly beautiful," she said explaning why she's taken to writing it at the bottom of all her letters, "like a message from above." Her husband, Frank, liked the phrase so much that he put it up on the wall for his seventh graders, one of whom was the daughter of a local columnist. The columnist put it in the paper, admitting that though she liked it, she didn't know where it came from [sic] or what it really meant. Two days later, she heard from Anne Herbert. Tall, blonde, and forty, Herbert lives in Marin, one of the country's ten richest counties, where she house-sits, takes odd-jobs, and gets by. It was in a Sausalito restaurant that Herbert jotted the phrase down on a paper place mat, after turning it around in her mind for days. "That's wonderful!" a man sitting nearby said, and copied it down carefully on his own placemat. "Here's the idea," Herbert says. "anything you think there should be more of, do it randomly." Her own fantasies include: (1) breaking into depressing-looking schools to paint the classrooms, (2) leaving hot meals on kitchen tables in the poor parts of town, (3) slipping money into a proud old woman's purse. Says Herbert, "kindness can build on itself as much as violence can." Now the phrase is spreading, on bumper stickers, on walls, at the bottom of letters and business cards. And as it spreads, so does a vision of guerrilla goodness. In Portland, Oregon, a man might plunk a coin into a stranger's meter just in time. In Patterson, New Jersey, a dozen people with pails and mops and tulip bulbs might descend on a run-down house and clean it from top to bottom while the frail elderly owners look on, dazed and smiling. In Chicago, a teenage boy may be shoveling off the driveway when the impulse strikes. What the hell, nobody's looking, he thinks, and shovels the neighbor's driveway, too. It's positive anarchy, disorder, a sweet disturbance. A woman in Boston writes "Merry Christmas!" to the tellers on the back of her checks. A man in St. Louis, whose car has just been rear-ended by a young woman, waves her away, saying, "It's a scratch. Don't Worry." Senseless acts of beauty spread: A man plants daffodils along the roadway, his shirt billowing in the breeze from passing cars. In Seattle, a man appoints himself a one man vigilante sanitation service and roams the concrete hills collecting litter in a supermarket cart. In Atlanta, a man scrubs graffiti from a green park bench. They say you can't smile without cheering yourself up a little -- likewise, you can't commit a random act of kindeness without feeling as if your own troubles have been lightened if only because the world has become a slightly better place. And you can't be a recipient without feeling a shock, a pleasant jolt. If you were one of those rush-hour drivers who found your bridge fare paid, who knows what you might have been inspired to do for someone else later? Wave someone on in the intersection? Smile at a tired clerk? Or something larger, greater? Like all revolutions, guerrilla goodness begins slowly, with a single act. Let it be yours. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 19:31:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: BMARANTZ@SNYESCVA.BITNET Subject: RE: Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty Thank you for the wonderful message -- a voice of sanity in a generally insane world. Will do! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1991 19:29:40 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: nancy felipe russo Subject: Re: Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 4 Dec 1991 17:43:18 GMT from People interested in the theme of practicing random kindness, etc., might want to read the book Magnificant Obsession (they made a movie out of it too)--I read it when I was very young and remember it as very powerful (at least to an impressionable youth). Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D. Director, Women's Studies ASU, Tempe, AZ 85287-1801 (602)965-2358 FAX:(602)965-2357 BITNET: ATNFR@ASUACAD ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 09:30:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: KILATTA@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: Re: needs assessment What is needs assessment? I have never heard of it. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 10:17:43 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Thomas Sullivan Sociology Subject: what is needs assessment This is in response to the person who asked what a needs assessment is. what follows is a copy of the note I sent to the person who originally asked about needs assessment and a reference to two of my books that have material on needs assessment. I am in a department of sociology and social work. Here are some quick answers to your questions. 1. I or my students seem to do at least one needs assessment each year. 2. This is a wild guess, but I would say that no more than 10% of the needs assessments that should be done are actually done. 3. A needs assessment should be done whenever considering starting up a new program or providing a new service or revising the same. Too often we just guess at how much need there is for a new program or service. I have seen enough needs assessment show that there is little need for something to tell me that this can be very valuable. 4. The attitude in my dpeartment is very positive, but then we are all social researchers so you would expect that. 5. Needs assessment is assessing extent of need BEFORE a program is designed and set up; evaluation (both formative and summative) are an effort to actually run a program and assess how well it achieves its goals. What are you going to do with these responses? Incidentally, I have two books out that have material on needs assessment and evaluation research in them: APPLIED SOCIAL RESEARCH: TOOL FOR THE HUMAN SERVICES (with Duane Monette and Cornell DeJong), Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1990, 2d ed. APPLIED SOCIOLOGY: RESEARCH AND CRITICAL THINKING, Macmillan, 1992. You might want to take a look at them and the references mentioned there to explore the topic more. Thomas J. Sullivan Department of Sociology and Social Work Northern Michigan University Marquette, Michigan 49855 bitnet: FATJ@NMUMUS ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 10:37:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Survey re Lesbian & Gay Faculty The following questionnaire was posted on the list HUMANIST, with the request that it be cross-posted to other relevant lists. IF YOU WISH TO RESPOND, PLEASE DO NOT SEND YOUR REPLIES TO WMST-L. LOUIE CREW IS NOT A SUBSCRIBER TO WMST-L AND WILL NOT RECEIVE YOUR REPLIES UNLESS YOU SEND THEM TO THE ADDRESS PROVIDED: Louie Crew, Assoc. Prof., Academic Foundations Dept., Rutgers U./Newark, Newark, N.J. 07102 or email to: LCREW@ANDROMEDA.RUTGERS.EDU. If you have questions, please contact Louie Crew, not WMST-L. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc *********************************************************** Please send me private email completing this Faculty Survey. Do not post to the list. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Louie Crew Faculty Survey [In this query, 'out' means 'anyone who has revealed lesgay sexual orientation at the institution.' -lc] My Institutions:________________ City/State..__________________ Approximate no. of full-time students at all levels:____________ My Department:__________________ Approximate no. of majors_____ My rank/position:_______________________________________________ W/i my department, I estimate: (Please fill in blanks with numbers.) Re: female colleagues ____ 'out' lesbians among the ____ female full professors ____ 'out' lesbians among the ____ female associate professors ____ 'out' lesbians among the ____ female assistant professors ____ 'out' lesbians among the ____ female full-time faculty below assist. Re: male colleagues ____ 'out' gay males among the ____ male full professors ____ 'out' gay males among the ____ male associate professors ____ 'out' gay males among the ____ male assistant professors ____ 'out' lesbians/gays among the ____ full-time faculty below assist. I consider myself: (Please check) ____ less likely than most other colleagues to know the sexual orientation of lesgay colleagues. ____ about as likely as most other colleagues to know the sexual orientation of lesgay colleagues. ____ more likely than most other colleagues to know the sexual orientation of lesgay colleagues. Please send me a copy of the results of this study. ___Yes ___ No ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you in advance for your response. I would appreciate your posting this query on other forums. Louie Crew, Assoc. Prof., Academic Foundations Dept., Rutgers U./NWK 07102 lcrew@andromeda.rutgers.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 13:11:28 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Lisa Suhair Majaj Subject: anthology of Arab American feminist writings Joanna Kadi is editing an anthology of writings by Arab feminists for Kitchen Table: WOmen of COlor Press. She is soliciting writings from women who are Arab-American, Arab-Canadian, or of Arab/Middle Eastern origin now living in the U.S. or Canada. SHe is open to receiving writing in any form -- short stories, essays, poems, letters, journal excerpts, dialogues, plays. Please spread the word to friends and colleagues who might be interested in submitting work. You can receive more information from Joanna Kadi at P.O. Box 7556, MInneapolis, MN 55407, or by sending email to me. (Since I am working on a project on Arab American writing, I would be interested in hearing from anyone thinking of submitting work, or any Arab American writers.) Lisa Majaj andalexa@wpi.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 14:19:47 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Sarah M. Pritchard" Subject: library job The following job was just advertised on one of the listserv's for library management; it may be of interest to readers of WMST-L, both as a job opportunity and to know that the library at SUNY- Binghamton supports this area: >From Sarah Pritchard, Association of Research Libraries pritchar@umdc (202-232-2466) ----------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 10:09:17 ECT Reply-To: Frank Mols Sender: "Library Administration and Management" Subject: JOB OPENINGS STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AT BINGHAMTON (...) The library system is composed of the Glenn G. Bartle Library, serving the social sciences and humanities and housing the centralized technical services operation, the Science Library, the Fine Arts Library, and three residential college libraries. The University is a member of RLG. Qualifications include ALA accredited MLS, effective interpersonal skills, excellent oral and written communication skills, and a strong commitment to service and professional development. Second advanced degree desirable. Excellent fringes including TIAA/CREF. Screening begins December 15 and will continue until filled. Reference Librarian/Women's Studies Bibliographer. Assistant or Senior Assistant Librarian. Responsibilities include reference services, information education activities, and collection development and management for Women's Studies, an interdisciplinary undergraduate program. Required: Bachelor's and/or Master's degree in subject area relevant to women's issues or equivalent combination of education and experience; experience in database searching; willingness to work flexible schedule including evening/weekend hours. Academic library experience and working knowledge of library automated systems preferred. Salary minimum $25,000. Send cover letter, current resume, and names, addresses, and telephone numbers of three references to: Mary Ann Sincavage Assistant to the Director of Libraries for Personnel Administration Glenn G. Bartle Library P. O. Box 6012 State University of New York at Binghamton Binghamton, New York 13902-6012 The State University of New York at Binghamton is strongly committed to affirmative action. We offer access to services and recruit students and employees without regard to race, color, sex, religion, age, disability, marital status, sexual orientation, or national origin. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 13:01:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MARTINS@SKLIB.USASK.CA Subject: In memoriam On 6 December 1989 Genevieve Bergeron, Helene Colgan, Nathalie Croteau, Barbara Daigneault, Anne-Marie Edward, Maud Haviernick, Barbara Marie Kleuznick, Maryse Leclair, Maryse Legainiere, Anne-Marie Lemay, Sonia Pelletier, Michele Richard, Anne St. Arneault and Annette Turcotte were gunned down at the Ecole-Polytechnique, Montreal, by a gunman who hated the fact that they were women engineering students. 6 December 1991 has been declared a national Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women by an Act of the Parliament of Canada. Please join the women and men of Canada in wearing white ribbons on 6 December 1991 to remember the deaths of the Montreal 14 and all women and children slain by the violence prompted and condoned by patriarchal society. Shirley Martin U of Saskatchewan Canada MARTINS@SKLIB.USASK.CA ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 16:05:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Answering received message From: GCARR@BUCKNELL.BITNET Subject: thanks In-Reply-To: <01GD7YLDHOOK0004RV@coral.bucknell.edu> Thank you so much for your nice note! Alice Walker's book is already on my list--they love that book, and also the later book of essays, the one with the piece on the MOVE bombing. Of course, the MOVE women are incarcerated where I'll be working, so its a great choice, too. Thanks again, and happy holidays! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 16:31:09 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: chan@MACPOST.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA Subject: Teach-in on Sexism We are at a preliminary stage of organizing a teach-in on sexism and violence against women for March of 1992. We are wondering if some of you have experience in organizing such an event and would be willing to let us know about your program: the content, its successes, failure or any suggestions. Thank you for your attention. Leslie K.W.Chan Dept of Anthropology Scarborough College University of Toronto ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1991 21:31:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Four job openings I have received word of the following four job openings. Please send all inquiries to the people named in the announcements, not to WMST-L or to me. Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc or @umbc2.umbc.edu) ************************************************************** 1) The College of the Holy Cross seeks an academic affairs administrator with experience in faculty and curriculum development to direct the Center for Interdisciplinary and Special Studies, the locale for innovation in faculty and curriculum development at the College. The Center administers four interdisciplinary concentrations in International Studies, Peace and Conflict Studies, African American Studies, and Women's Studies. The Center has responsibility for interdisciplinary programs in the College, including the Honors Program, the First Year Program, the Washington Semester Program, the Academic Internship Program, and Interdisciplinary seminars. On average, 400 students from all departments of the College are enrolled in one of the Center's programs each semester. The Director reports to the Vice President for Academic Affairs and is advised by a committee composed of faculty members from throughout the College. The Director is responsible for administering the activities, budgets, and programs of the Center. The Director works with the faculty, administration, and students of the College in the development and coordination of programs, courses, seminars, colloquia, conferences, cultural events, and grants associated with the Center. The Director serves on a number of faculty committees and ordinarily teaches one course each year. The position of Director is an administrative appointment with faculty status. Qualifications for this position include an earned doctorate, substantial experience as a faculty member and as an academic administrator, experience administering staffs and complex budgets, expertise in interdisciplinary enquiry in both teaching and in research, a commitment to excellence in liberal arts education for undergraduates, and the ability to work with diverse constituencies. Applications, including a statement of interest, a CV, and t least three letters of reference, as well as nominations, should be sent to: Chair, Director Search Committee, Center for Interdisciplinary and Special Studies, c/o Office for the Vice President of Academic Affairs, College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, MA 01610-2395. Closing date for receipt of nominations is December 13, 1991; closing date for receipt of completed applications is January 10, 1992. The College of the Holy Cross is an equal opportunity employer and welcomes applications from women and persons of color. ********************************************************* 2) State University of New York, College at Oneonta, invites candidates to fill a vacancy in Women's Studies (joint appointment). Candidates must qualify for joint appointment with another department listed. Teaching responsibility will include an introductory Women's Studies course, a feminist theory course, and courses in the candidate's area of specialization. Individuals whose research and teaching concern issues of race and ethnicity are particularly encouraged to apply. Preferred qualifications include a terminal degree appropriate to the field of study, teaching experience, and documented scholarly accomplishment or promise. In most cases, otherwise qualified individuals who have not yet completed the appropriate terminal degree will be considered for appointment as Lecturer or Instructor. Review of candidates will begin immediately and continue until position is filled. To receive full consideration, materials should be received by January 21, 1992. Applicants should submit a cover letter with a brief summary of qualifications and experiences, resume, and names and phone numbers of three references. Submit materials, or requests for additional information to: Vice President for Multicultural Affairs Netzer Administration Building, Box C State University of New York, College of Oneonta Oneonta, New York 13820-4015 AA/EOE ************************************************************* 3) Women's Studies, University of Rochester, Susan B. Anthony Professor of Women's Studies. Tenured position in Women's Studies and another discipline (literature, history, religion, anthropology, art history) for a distinguished feminist scholar whose research and teaching are interdisciplinary. Send applications, references, and vita by February 1, 1992, to: Susan B. Anthony Center, 538 Lattimore Hall, University of Rochester, Rochester, New York 14627. AA/EOE ************************************************************** 4) The University of Houston-Clear Lake offers a full-time tenure track position in Literature to begin September 1, 1992. Ph.D. in English or American Studies is required. We are seeking a specialist in American Literature. Preference will be given to those able to teach, in addition, in one of the following areas--Minority Literature, Women's Literature, Literary Theory, Third World Literature. UH-Clear Lake is an upper-level university serving juniors, seniors, and master's candidates. Three courses a semester. Salary competitive. Please send letter of application, CV, and names of three references to Dr. Carol Snyder, Associate Dean for Academic Affairs, School of Human Sciences and Humanities, Box 416, UH-Clear Lake, 2700 Bay Area Blvd., Houston, TX 77058. Review of applications begins immediately and continues until the position is filled. AA/EOE. We recognize that minority and racial diversity increases the quality of our faculty and student body. Candidate must provide proof of eligibility to work in the United States. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1991 13:11:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Mary.King" <22741MGR@MSU.BITNET> Subject: 3 job announcements Hello! While accidentally having lunch this week with the Chair of the Sociology Department at Michigan State University, he told me that they are conducting a job search for someone who does work on women in developing countries. I'm an economist at James Madison College at MSU, so don't know much else about the position, but it sounded like a good opportunity! Yours, Mary King 22741mgr@msu or (517)336-1157 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1991 16:54:44 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ethel Tobach Subject: The real meaning of all the holidays around the solstice Thanks for much for the message about random kindness and pointless beauty.... it was a real spirit-lifter. Ethel Tobach ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1991 18:11:46 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Amanda Goldrick-Jones Subject: Trying to Deliver a Message My apologies for taking up time and space on the list with this message. I cannot get through to the recipient at either of her addresses! This is for Susan E. Fillipelli at Univ. of Alabama. Susan, hope you get this--and once again, apologies to all on WMST-L who _aren't_ Susan Fillipelli! ---(Forwarded from: postmaster@asnuah.asn.net, Dated: Fri, 6 Dec 91 09:11:20 EST)--- Return-path: Received: from asnuah.asn.net by MTS.RPI.EDU via Internet with TCP; Fri, 6 Dec 9 Date: 6 Dec 91 09:11:20 CDT From: "SMTP MAILER" To: "amanda_goldrick-jones" ----Reason for mail failure follows---- Sending mail to recipient(s) UAHSEFO1 : Couldn't make final delivery. %MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user UAHSEFO1 at node ASNUAH ----Transcript of message follows---- Received: from rpi.edu by asnuah.asn.net with SMTP ; Fri, 6 Dec 91 09:10:43 CDT Received: from MTS.RPI.EDU by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB31); id AA20020; Fri, 6 Dec 91 11:09:02 EST for UAHSEFO1@ASNUAH.ASN.NET Date: Fri, 6 Dec 91 11:08:30 EST From: Amanda_Goldrick-Jones@MTS.RPI.EDU To: UAHSEFO1@ASNUAH.ASN.NET Message-Id: <2606953@MTS.RPI.EDU> Subject: Attempting to send a thank-you note I hope this one will get through! The Bitnet address didn't work. ---(Forwarded from: POSTMAST@UAHVAX1.BITNET, Dated: Fri, 6 Dec 91 07:43:00 EST)- Received: from UAHVAX1(POSTMAST) by RPITSMTS(MAILER) via BITNET with RM id <162900@RPITSMTS.BITNET>; Fri, 6 Dec 91 07:42:56 EST Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1991 06:43 CST From: Subject: Returned Network Mail To: USERGSLU@RPITSMTS Original_To: BITNET%"USERGSLU@RPITSMTS" Your mail is being returned to you. Reason for return is: %MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user UAHSEFO1 at node ASNUAH Returned mail follows: ------------------------------ Received: From RPITSMTS(MAILER) by UAHVAX1 with Jnet id 1687 for UAHSEFO1@UAHVAX1; Fri, 6 Dec 1991 06:43 CST Date: Thu, 5 Dec 91 18:24:24 EST From: Amanda Goldrick-Jones Subject: Thanks To: UAHSEFO1@UAHVAX1.BITNET Message-Id: <2605698@RPITSMTS.BITNET> Hello, Susan! This is to thank you for sending me a copy of your paper "The 'Girl Singer. . .'" and to apologize for not acknow- leging earlier that it came to me (before Thanksgiving). I have read the first few pages and am struck by the commonality of the project many of us are working on, in our own ways, of finding women's voices and trying to describe them. I notice in your Bib references to Gilligan, Heilbrun (interesting relation of Heil- brun's study of female autobiography to country music; it sits nicely!). I know virtually nothing about country music but am looking forward to being able to read the rest of your paper. Right now it's the Graduate Student End-of-Term Syndrome. . .!! I'll keep you up to date on any projects I'm working on that might be of interest to you. Thanks again for thinking of me. Have a good Christmas. --Amanda-Goldrick-Jones@mts.rpi.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1991 21:23:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: women w/doctoral degrees sought This message first appeared on SYSTERS and then on FEMAIL, from which I am reprinting it. If you have questions or wish to participate, please contact Carole Slipowitz at the address or phone # below. DO NOT respond to WMST-L. Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc) **************************************************************** I'm forwarding this from the systers list. It was posted for a woman who is doing a study on women and achievement and is looking for women with doctoral degrees. She has access to lots of psychologists, but would like to balance things out with computer scientists, or anyone else you may have access to. Feel free to forward this message. Please reply to her, not to me or to Systers. Thanks. She is: Carole Slipowitz (617) 499-9537 (preferred) 74 Maynard St. West Newton, MA. 02165 ====================================================================== Hello! My name is Carole Slipowitz. I am currently a doctoral student at Massachusetts School of Professional Psychology, and am doing an exploratory qualitative research study of professional women who have academic doctoral degrees. I am asking for your help in finding participants for my study. Participants would fill out a short demographic questionnaire and then meet with me for a semi-structured interview which would last between one and two hours. I am interested in interviewing women who are between 35 and 45 years old and have academic doctoral degrees (e.g., Ph.D., Psy.D. or Ed.D., but not M.D. or J.D.), with whom I do not already have a personal or professional relationship. Participants also must have been raised in the United States. Briefly, the nature of the study is as follows: I am interested in the fact that people tend to have different definitions of what it means to achieve, and to be successful in life. I will be asking each participant what it means to her to be successful in life. This initial question will be followed by a few other related questions. I am interested in having each woman tell me not only about her work, but also about her life as a whole. The confidentiality of all participants will be respected. Identifying information will be changed and pseudonyms will be used when I write up the study. Participants will be welcome to receive a copy of the results once the work is completed. If you know women aged 35-45 with doctoral degrees (or, if you yourself are such a woman!) who you think might be available to be interviewed in November, December or January, I would be very grateful if you would refer them to me. I plan to do most of the interviews in the Boston area, but I have some flexibility to travel, particularly to other parts of the East Coast. Please feel free to distribute copies of this letter. If a potential participant has any questions or would like more information, I can be reached at (617) 499-9537. Thank you so much for your help! Sincerely, Carole Slipowitz ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1991 23:28:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Janie Johnson Subject: Random Kindness (well, sort of) The following is a Neiman-Marcus cookie story complete with $250 recipe courtesy of the 'owner'. Hope you enjoy it. =========================FORWARDED MESSAGE==================================== Date: Mon, 2 Dec 91 09:56:25 PST From: "Brynna Donn" Forwarded from Apple--enjoy. ============================================================================== SUBJECT: EXPENSIVE LESSON - $250.00 COOKIE RECIPE My daughter and I had finished a salad at the Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas and decided to have a small desert. Because our family members are such "Cookie Monsters", we decided to try the Neiman-Marcus Cookie. It was so good that I asked if they would give me the recipe. She said with a frown, "I'm afraid not", "Well", I said, "Would you let me buy the recipe?" With a cute smile, she agreed. I asked how much, and she responded "Two Fifty". I said with approval, "Just add it to my tab". Thirty days later I received my statement from Neiman-Marcus and it was $285.00. I looked again and remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two salads and about $20 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the statement said "Cookie Recipe-$250". Boy was I upset! I called Neiman's accounting office and told them the waitress said it was "two fifty" and did not realize she meant $250 for a cookie recipe. I asked them to take back the recipe and reduce my bill, but they said they were sorry, but all recipes were this expensive so not just anyone could duplicate the bakery recipes...the bill would stand. I thought of how I could try to get even or try to get my money back. I just said okay, you folks got my $250 and now I'm going to have $250 worth of fun. I told her that I was going to see to it that every cookie lover will have the $250 recipe from Neiman-Marcus for nothing. She replied "I wish you wouldn't do this." I said, "I'm sorry, but this is the only way I feel I can get even and I will." So here it is, please pass it on to someone else or run a few copies...I paid for it, so now you can have it for free!!! 2 cups butter 1 tsp. salt 2 cups sugar 2 tsp. baking powder 2 cups brown sugar 2 tsp. soda 4 eggs 24 oz. chocolate chips 2 tsp. vanilla 1-8 oz. Hershey bar, grated 4 cups flour 3 cups chopped nuts 5 cups blended oatmeal* Cream butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla. Mix together with flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder and soda. Add chocolate chips, Hershey bar and nuts. Roll into balls and place two inches apart on a cookie sheet. Bake for 10 minutes at 375. Makes 112 cookies (recipe may be halved). * Measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder. Have fun! This is not a joke - this is a true story!!!!! (believe it or not?????) -------- Forward on to others. ========================End forwarde message========================= ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 10:15:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: GCARR@FLINT.BUCKNELL.EDU Subject: business rip-offs This is a scholarly note in response to the charming Neiman-Marcus cookie story. These stories circulate widely, especially at this time of year when the crass commercialism of U.S. culture and the contradictions of Reagan-era capitalism come shockingly to the attention of shoppers. While not doubting the "truth" of the story, I'd like to point out its similarities to others, especially the Red Velvet Cake stories so neatly described in "Business Ripoffs: Two Favorite Media Legends" in Jan Brunvand's The Vanishing Hitchhiker: American Urban Legends and Their Meanings. And by the way, folklore is an excellent, productive way to teach Women's Studies. I'd like to see more of us incorporate folkloric materials into our Intro courses. Glynis Carr, Dept. English, Bucknell University, Lewisburg PA 17837 GCARR@BUCKNELL.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 09:52:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Janie Johnson Subject: Re: Random kindness (well, sort of) Since I was the one who posted the Neiman-Marcus cookie story, I should probably also add that I have no way of knowing whether it is 'true' or not. One friend described it as either "clever fiction" or "clever truth". It wouldn't be the first time a 'tall tale' has come out of Texas. On the other hand it is representative of the extravagant and snobbish image often associated with Neiman-Marcus where one can purchase 'his' and 'her' jets @$4,000,000, a Christmas tree decorated with precious stones @$1,500,000, a solid gold bathtub for $700,000 or, for those on a budget, a 'matching pair' of Bengal tigers for a mere $38,000 or an 8-place setting of jade soup bowls for only $24,000. Janie Johnson jxjohnson@ualr.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 10:19:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Janie Johnson Subject: Re: Random Kindness (well, sort of) One quick followup note. I believe the correct spelling is Nieman-Marcus which may or may not give a clue as to the truth of the story. jxjohnso@ualr.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 13:03:56 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: IP05946@PORTLAND.BITNET In-Reply-To: Re: Random kindness (well, sort of) Re. Cookies. This is not the first time that I have heard this story, so I looked into it a bit more. At least two sepereate sources confirm that it is t he truth. Oh well, truth or not, it is still a good story...Enjoy. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 11:15:48 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ATNFR@ASUACAD.BITNET In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 8 Dec 1991 13:03:56 EST from Re cookies: The critical thing, though, is are they good cookies!!! (As I scientist, I will test that.......) Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D. Director, Women's Studies ASU, Tempe, AZ 85287-1801 (602)965-2358 FAX:(602)965-2357 BITNET: ATNFR@ASUACAD ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 13:24:42 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Frank Dane In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 8 Dec 1991 11:15:48 MST from At the risk of being labelled overly serious, may I point out that the Nieman-Marcus cookie story, true or not, has more of the flavor (no pun intended--well, sort of) of guerilla economics than guerilla goodness. On th eother hand, relating such stories can be an effective means for generating discussions about social implications of an economy- oriented, consumption-based society. Francis C. Dane, Assoc. Prof. & Chair Department of Pschology, Mercer University Macon, GA 31207-0001 USA FDANE@UGA.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 12:56:08 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LL23000 Subject: cookie legend In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of SUN 08 DEC 1991 13:03:56 EST > Re. Cookies. This is not the first time that I have heard this story, so I > looked into it a bit more. At least two sepereate sources confirm that it is > he truth. Oh well, truth or not, it is still a good story...Enjoy. I thought I had heard this cookie story before, and it has been confirme d by people on the urban folklore list that this story has been around for a long time--that one version (which is the one I heard) has to do with Mrs. Field's cookies. So I am interested in how your sources could confirm this as "the truth" . Do they know the person involved? Or, have they simply seen it enoug h, in a variety of places, that they believe it to be true, because they think this would have been squelched if it were false? I think that how we determine the truth of rumors is crucial. After all , some people felt that Anita Hill hadn't been REALLY harassed, because if she had, there would have been rumors about it. Karen ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 17:55:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MMULLARKEY@HAMP.HAMPSHIRE.EDU Subject: those darned cookies... Funny, this entire debate over the cookie recipe/story just circulated on another list that I'm on. My vote? Total farce. Michaela (MMULLARKEY@HAMPVMS.BITNET) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1991 21:01:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ASHELDON@UMNACVX.BITNET Subject: Re: cookie legend I would like to raise what might seem like an impertinence re the cookie recipe story: has anyone MADE the recipe? Do the cookies taste good, even? Why argue about the origins of the recipe if the cookies don't even taste good? Frankly, when I saw "oatmeal" in the recipe, I did start to wonder if it was money well spent. Cookie making mom in Minneapolis. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 02:06:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: HENKING@HWS.BITNET Subject: in re cookies anyone out there ever read the books about urban legends? susan (henking@hws) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 06:48:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "JANIS BOHAN (556-3088/3205, MSC BOX 54)" Subject: Book on women in hist of psy From: ZENO::BOHAN "JANIS BOHAN (556-3088/3205, MSC BOX 54)" 4-DEC-1991 17:13:21.42 To: BITNET%"FAC_ASKAHN@JMUVAX" CC: BOHAN Subj: RE: Hi RE; requests for further information about the Women in the History of Psych book: Basics: Title: Re-Placing Women in Psychology: Readings Toward a More Inclusive History Published by Kendall/Hunt (Dubuque,IA) Approx. 200 pp., Cost $21.95. The book includes an introduction (presentation of constructionism), section introductions, 9 articles dealing with constructionism, women's place in psychology (as constructed), and the impact of women on the field, finishing with a conclusion that discusses new directions. The best part is material to help students (and instructors) incorporate specific women, using this constructionist perspective. It includes a list of 40 major women in the history of psy, along with biographical references for them. Also includes a chart for the instructor to figure out which women to include where (either by her/his own lectures or by assigning student projects) -- with parallels to a standard text. Also includes a huge bib of sources re: constructionism, historiography, and gender theory as related to women in history of psy ... roughly. Finally, it includes study/essay/review questions and section evaluations, which can be removed (perforated sheets) and turned in to keep the instructor aware of how the material is being handled by students. For more info: Janis Bohan, Metropolitan State College of Denver, P.O. Box 173362, Denver, CO 80217-3362; (303)556-3088. BITNET%"BOHAN@MSCD.BITNET" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 07:10:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "JANIS BOHAN (556-3088/3205, MSC BOX 54)" Subject: Women in Hist of Psy Book I'm having trouble getting messages back to people who requested information about or exam copies of the book "Re-Placing Women in the History of Psychology: Readings Toward a More Inclusive History" (about which I've posted more infor today. If anyone out there would like to receive an exam copy, write to: Cathy Goodman KEndall/Hunt Publishing Co 2460 Kerper Blvd. Dubuque, Iowa 52001 Or phone me directly (303)556-3088 Or phone me directly: (303) 556-3088 Janis Bohan BITNET%"BOHAN@MSCD.BITNET" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 09:15:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Candice Feldt Subject: Re: Random Kindness (well, sort of) As a native of Texas now living in a city which also has one, the store really is spelled Neiman Marcus, not Nieman Marcus. Why are people so reluctant to believe this woman's story? It doesn't strike me as far fetched at all! Candy Feldt Tufts University cfeldt@pearl.tufts.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 10:09:12 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Jean L. Potuchek jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu" Subject: Cookies and Random Acts There's a certain amount of lightheartedness that's appropriate for the holiday season. Unfortunately, however, for many of us this is also the end-of-semester grading crunch. At a time of the semester when every minute of my time is carefully budgeted and precious having to spend half an hour wading through messages about cookies feels more like a random act of hostility than a random act of kindness. Let's try to balance fun with consideration. --------------- Jean L. Potuchek Women's Studies Bitnet: jpotuche@gburg Gettysburg College Internet:jpotuche@cc.gettysburg.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 12:48:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: NWSA and electronic communications After an initial wariness of electronic communications, the National Women's Studies Association has begun to recognize the advantages that such communication offers. I spoke last week to Deborah Louis, NWSA's acting director, who told me that the only thing standing in the way of NWSA's joining the e-mail world is the need for an Ethernet card to connect them to the mainframe. They've been told that an Ethernet card would cost somewhere in the vicinity of $200-$300. If anyone were thinking of making a tax-deductible end-of-year donation to NWSA, you might consider specifying that your donation be used to help buy the Ethernet card. According to Debbie Louis, you can do this by writing "For Ethernet Card" in the lower left-hand part of the check. (I'd be inclined to write a cover memo as well.) Checks can be sent to National Women's Studies Association, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742-1325. If you have questions, the NWSA's phone number is (301) 405-5573. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 13:56:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Phyllis Holman Weisbard Subject: upcoming conferences query I would like to find out about women's studies conferences planned for Spring 1992 and thereafter, particularly ones planned for the MidWest. A special interest of a faculty member here is combining women's studies and the 500th anniversary of Columbus' landing. Are any conferences planning sessions to deal with this theme? Reply to pweis@macc.wisc.edu. Phyllis Holman Weisbard, Acting Women's Studies Librarian, University of Wisconsin System, 430 Memorial Library, 728 State Street, Madison, WI 53706 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 16:51:03 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MIKE Subject: RE: upcoming conferences query It's beyond me ... what's the connection between women's studies and c Columbus? Mike Keenan keenan@gw.wmich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 18:06:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Betty K. Fry, Systems Dept., Rutgers University" Subject: Re: Random kindness (well, sort of) Seems like the subscribers on this bb sure don't have much to do. Why don't you get on one of the less scholarly ones and quit cluttering up my mailbox! Betty K. Fry BFRY@zodiac.rutgers.edu Library Programmer/Analyst Rutgers University Libraries Systems Dept., Technical and Automated Svcs Library Technical Svcs Bldg., Davidson Road Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 (908) 932-5896: voice (908) 932-5888: fax ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 18:29:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Betty K. Fry, Systems Dept., Rutgers University" Subject: Re: Cookies and Random Acts There's a certain amount of lightheartedness that's appropriate for the Thanks so much, Jean! You said it much more tactfully than I did! And I am not even burdened by end-of-semester. Just boredom as I read 1 useful message in 10 (Thank God for those 10% who understand what Joan is trying to tell us!) Betty K. Fry BFRY@zodiac.rutgers.edu Library Programmer/Analyst Rutgers University Libraries Systems Dept., Technical and Automated Svcs Library Technical Svcs Bldg., Davidson Road Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 (908) 932-5896: voice (908) 932-5888: fax ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1991 21:06:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Janie Johnson Subject: The Nature of this List Last time I checked there were over 500 people on this list and it has occurred to me that anything posted to the list may be construed as 'mailbox clutter' to someone. I debated whether to post the Neiman-Marcus cookie story because it is a 'fun' thing rather than a 'serious' and 'scholarly' thing, but that really is not the point-- although it has also occurred to me that a bit of humor might add something to the list. There have been a number of times when I had something dealing specifically with women's studies that I wished to post to the list and did not simply because of the pressure I feel to not 'clutter' mailboxes and, in effect, that consideration is now uppermost in my mind when I consider posting to WMST-L. If other people are feeling as much pressure as I feel at this point to refrain from posting to the list then I suspect we are missing out on some interesting and informative discussions. It reminds me of when I was in third grade. Our teacher told us absolutely never to ask her anything the answer to which we could find in a book. Being extremely conscientious, I figured that there was nothing I could not find in a book and so never asked another question until I got to graduate school and then asked all the 'wrong' ones in a time and a place where my interest in women's studies was not appreciated. If this 'list' is to be a mere Bulletin Board for job, conference and new book announcements and not a list for the *discussion* of women's studies then I think we all need to be made aware of that in very explicit terms. Joan has done a fine job trying to steer a middle course between those of us who would prefer it be only a bulletin board and those of us who would prefer more discussion. I am very glad that job and conference announcements are posted to the list. No other list I am on is as good in that respect. Because I am isolated here without others interested in women's studies with whom I can discuss current trends and issues, I would prefer to see more actual discussion on the 'list'. For example, I found the recent postings by Allan Hunter thought-provoking and pertinent and would like to have seen some followup discussion. It has occurred to me that perhaps two lists might be appropriate: one that is a bulletin board for announcements and one that is for discussion. On the other hand, my computer has a delete key and I can survey the 'subject headings' of all of my mail, pull out that with subject headings which interest me and delete all the rest simultaneously with the flick of a key. Other lists to which I subscribe generally have several discussions going simultaneously and I simply choose to read those in which I am interested. For example, I would like to see some extensive discussion on this list of what is going on currently in the areas of women's spirituality, cultural feminism, feminism and science, the psychology of women and how women are treated by mental health professions, feminist therapy, feminist philosophy, women in history, women under colonialism, and any number of others. All of us are very busy and I don't think it is a matter of some of us being less 'serious' or less 'scholarly'. It just seems to me that there is a better way to deal with this issue rather than forcing everyone to make the most important criteria of this list a desire to not "clutter" the mailboxes of others for one person's 'clutter' may be just what someone else needs or could appreciate. Every time women's studies or feminism has come up on some of the lists I am on it has been subjected to intense ridicule. This list could serve a very useful function in providing a 'safe' place where women's studies could be discussed without the discussants being subjected to 'locker-room' vulgarities and violence. Janie Johnson jxjohnson@ualr.edu (internet) jxjohnson@ualr.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 00:54:36 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Patt" Subject: Re: The Nature of this List In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 9 Dec 1991 21:06:00 CDT from Thank you, Janie...I hope your points are given serious consideration. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 01:02:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: RE: The Nature of this List I'd like to try to respond to some of the concerns Janie Johnson has raised about the nature of WMST-L in her very thoughtful recent message to the list. Janie says that she feels reluctant to post messages about women's studies out of fear of cluttering people's mailboxes. She suggests splitting WMST-L into two lists, one for announcements and one for discussion. Though I appreciate her concern for mailbox clutter, I think to some degree both her concern and her suggested solution arise from a misunderstanding of WMST-L's purpose. WMST-L is not and never has been intended just for announcements, and I think relatively few people would want such a list (including most of those who complain about clutter) . Announcements are one important function that WMST-L was set up to serve, but so too is discussion of Women's Studies teaching, research, and program administration. No one wanting to discuss these issues should be afraid to do so for fear of creating "clutter." (The one exception is that if what you want to say is really directed primarily at one person and is unlikely to be of broader interest, you should send your message privately, not via WMST-L.) What doesn't belong on WMST-L is discussion of gender-related societal problems, male/female relations, etc. Lists like FEMAIL, GENDER, and others already exist for just such discussion. If these are the issues Janie wants to set up a second list to discuss, there's no need to do so--such lists already exist. I subscribe to them, as do a number of other WMST-L readers. They offer the "safe place" Janie quite rightly wants. But those lists include little or no discussion of Women's Studies teaching, research, and program administration. That's why WMST-L was established. The existence of lists with separate missions provides all of us with a maximum degree of control and choice: we can tailor our subscriptions to meet our needs and our time constraints. The mention of "time constraints" brings me to another point. Janie wonders whether the absence of extensive serious discussion on WMST-L results from people's being reluctant to post messages to the list. I too have noticed the relative absence of lengthy intellectual debate, but I don't think that Janie offers the primary explanation. Indeed, people seemed all too ready to post messages to the list about the Neiman-Marcus cookies, even when they were simply repeating what had already been said. But those messages were short, and that, I think, may be a crucial factor. My impression is that WMST-L seems to be most successful in dealing with the exchange of information (teaching strategies, recommended readings, etc.), less successful in generating intellectual discussion. I suspect that many of us are often simply too busy to devote a lot of time to long, serious e-mail discussions. I know that there have been a number of postings that I saved for a while, hoping to find time to respond at length. Finally, I simply deleted them. My life before e-mail was already more busy than I could handle, and I don't think I'm unusual, especially among Women's Studies people. It's now almost 1 a.m. where I live, and I've long since turned into a pumpkin. I should probably save this on my computer until I have time to think about what I've said and see whether it makes sense. But that sort of time is a luxury I don't have, especially now as the semester is coming to an end. So I'll ship this off and dream of WMST-L. Goodnight, all. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 02:37:43 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter Subject: Re: The Nature of this List In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 9 Dec 1991 21:06:00 CDT from Thank you! :-) allan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 08:04:21 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ethel Tobach Subject: Columbus, women and network communication Thanks to Joan, Janie and the others shedding light on the type of com- munication we might have on wmst-L. I welcome all that I have seen. It is a very simple matter to scan and purge (as my menu calls it), and also save and print out meaningful (to me) material that I expect to use some day. I think the query by Mike Keenan exemplifies one of the most sig- nificant aspects of the network. There is no aspect of the history of the human species that does not have value for those of us who are study- ing the history of women (history here used in the sense of an ongoing process of societal and social change so that we are concerned with the past, present and future...a strong activist representation for me). The history of the cultures that were extant at the time of European impact is rich with information about the position of women in those cultures... and how that was changed in the process of European acculturation. (See Eleanor Leacock's germinal studies of the Labrador population...especially in relation to women). The difference between the ways in which women and their supposed "biological" role in society and the differences among the Europeans and those people who were already living here as defined by "race" (this came much later; abut the inferiority of the people {savages} on these continents as contrasted with the Europeans who came here is also something that we must analyze and understand. Sexism and racism have much in common but their explications are very different; the period of slavery in the USA is one of the best examples for studying this. Here too there is a rich literature (the comment about finding things in libraries was delicious!). KNowing the history of these processes might help us to find a way to analyze and develop constructive policies in regard to such complex matters as the pitting of women against minorities in imple- menting affirmative action programs; in understanding the Thomas-Hill events; in the problem of the "whiteness" of the women's movements, etc. The 500 years since Columbus have much to tell us...especially about the world as it was before, as it is today and as we want to make it tomorrow. To the network if I don't get back to it in time: Happy Holidays...and may the special honor we pay to a special woman at this time be an inspir- ation for making the world a better place for all women and men everywhere. Ethel Tobach (new address: ettgc@cunyvms.1) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 09:10:29 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: KMARCH@MAINE.BITNET Subject: Columbus and women One area I have found interesting for the Columbus/women relationship is the wh ole business of Amazons in the New World. A colleague in Classics got me start ed on it, and we have done collaborative work (I am a Spanish professor). Thes e warrior women, whom CC never saw, but affirmed were residing on Matutino Isla nd (Martinique???) then became the object of search for countless men, Spanish and of other nationalities, who needed to know there were some strong women in these new lands that were worth conquering [sic]. There are fascinating studie s, in fact, on America AS Amazon, and curiously enough, there is a difference b etween the concept of North America and that of South America. We are still wo rking on this project. Hopefully, the relationship between God, Gold, Glory an d Gals (please do not misinterpret this term, it does not express my perspectiv e!) will become progressively clearer. Anyway, Columbus really started somethi ng, even if a leaky ship and inclement weather prevented him from actually find ing the women in question... Regards and Great Holidays. Kathleen March ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 09:16:00 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Re: The Nature of this List I wish to second Janie's comment about this list. I personally have felt very uplifted and humoured by the short "cookie-digression". This list is by far the most useful and supportive of the ones I have seen in the gender area. Please keep up the good work, I definitely don't mind a few cookie-crumbs. I have used this list as a passive reader to help me get a bibliography for my doctoral dissertation together, and I have been very well served. Thank you all for being out there ! Elizabeth Herr ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 09:58:16 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary Kay Schleiter Subject: columbus The Columbus exploits can be analyzed from a women's studies perspective. As far as I know, there were no women on the Nina, the Pinta, or the Santa Maria. Although I don't know much Spanish, all three ships have feminine-sounding names. Ships, I believe, are thought of as feminine. Imagery is important here. The men steared the ships to conquer a new land and take their gold. People were murdered in large numbers in order to subdue the native community. Women were raped. No descendants from the oridginal native community survive on the islands Columbus landed on. The whole idea of conquest and domination came from a patriarchal mind set. Mary Kay Schleiter mks@cs.uwp.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 11:45:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PLAUTER@TRINCC.BITNET Subject: Renaissance/new world/ feminist studies Inspired by Ethel Tobach's message: do people have particularly useful examples of work published (books or articles) in Renaissance cultural studies from a feminist standpoint that focuses on the new world? I have in mind work like that of Stephen Jay Greenblatt in Marvellous Possessions. Paul Lauter Bitnet: plauter@tncc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 12:06:47 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Robert A. Dunne" Subject: RE: Renaissance/new world/ feminist studies I believe Suzanne Gossett, of Loyola Chicago, is addressing late medieval/early renaissance culture from feminist perspectives at MLA this month. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 14:00:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: USRNAME Subject: RE: Affirmative Action Nancy, I don't have the information you are looking for regarding affirmative action but what I have been trying to say regarding Susan Bordo's essay is that it is the last chapter of her book on Descartes. What I have from her is a clean, double spaced etc' copy of it. Is that what you want? Ami. My address is AMI@BINGVAXA we are on BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 14:05:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: BMARANTZ@SNYESCVA.BITNET Subject: RE: The Nature of this List Thanks, Janie -- I did appreciate your argument -- and agree, we all have the ability to delete a message before reading. That the discussion issues surface and survive (eg: women's mental health, toys and gender identity) suggests many want them. One vote here for a balance . ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 14:09:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: USRNAME Subject: Re: Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty Thanks for the reference. Are you, by any chance a friend of Hortensia Amaro? I think she gave your address to a friend of mine and somehow the name stuck with me.If Yes, nice to have made your acquaintance through this bizzar electronic mail. If not, ? (I don't know what to say here. Ami.) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 14:06:56 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2 From: "Leonard P. Hirsch" Subject: columbus In-Reply-To: note of 12/10/91 11:30 From: Leonard P. Hirsch Office of International Relations/Q-3123 (202) 357-4788 While the concepts of conquest and ownership are patriarchal and need to be seen in this light, much of the discussion of of women and the Columbian encounter go beyond the plight of the women to our understanding of history and the reinterpretation of indigenous populations, their civilizations and relationships. All of the descriptions of the native populations were given by European men who had extraordinarily patriarchal world views. Evidence is now being reexamined and finding that the native populations were more diverse and certainly, more matriarchal than believed. In the quincentennial discourse, the role of women, feminist scholarship, and gender/race/class structures is quite prominent and should be very germane to women's studies classes this coming year. +-----------------------------------------------------+ | Leonard Hirsch (202) 357-4788/FAX (202)786-2557 | | Smithsonian Institution BITNET INCEM005@SIVM | +-----------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 14:47:31 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Robert A. Dunne" Subject: RE: columbus ---And perhaps another angle which feminist perspectives can pursue is the role of the person who sent Columbus: Queen Isabella. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 14:51:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: RE: The Nature of this List A few minutes ago, Barbara Marantz sent the following message to WMST-L: > Thanks, Janie -- I did appreciate your argument -- and agree, we all have > the ability to delete a message before reading. That the discussion > issues surface and survive (eg: women's mental health, toys and gender > identity) suggests many want them. One vote here for a balance > . Many people do want discussion of such issues, and many others do not. The arrangement I've proposed permits both kinds of people to be satisfied. Those who want such discussions can have them--by subscribing to FEMAIL, to GENDER, and/or to any other the other lists mentioned in the User's Guide. I frankly don't think it's either fair or considerate to force many people who DON'T want such discussions to have to receive them, especially when so simple a solution exists. As listowner, I've heard from large numbers of people who can access e-mail only at work, when they have limited time to read messages. I've also heard from people who have very small allocations of e-mail space and want to be able to choose the kinds of messages they receive, as well as from people who use e-mail for lots of work-related correspondence and can't afford to have large numbers of other sorts of messages cluttering their mail files. And I've also heard from people who simply want only the kinds of messages WMST-L was set up to carry, messages about Women's Studies teaching, research, and program administration. I think that all these people deserve consideration, especially, as I say, when it's so easy for all of us to have our needs met. So please, those of you like Janie and Barbara who want both kinds of discussions--please subscribe to the lists that have been set up for just such discussions. If you subscribe to them AND to WMST-L, you'll have the "balance" for which Barbara casts her vote, without impinging on others whose needs are different from yours. Many thanks. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 20:30:33 GMT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SLD14@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK Subject: Re: [The Nature of this List] In-Reply-To: -unspecified- Thanks, Janie. , for saying what wyouve've said. I gcouldnt ag't agree more. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 18:35:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Helen M. Raisz/Institute of Gerontology" Subject: RE: upcoming conferences query Here again is a problem replying to an individual, not to the list. I tried to reach keenan@gw.wmich.edu, which is not a bitnet, but an internet address? please use the complete address, eg.bitnet or internet or whatever. Anyway, I think probably the NWSA could tell you about conferences on Columbus and Women. I'm sure the position of women was one of the first factors to change when the indigenous populations were "Westernized" by 15th century Spaniards. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 20:30:39 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: NBLACK@VM2.YORKU.CA Subject: conference: mainstreaming Today among my massive list of messages there was one querying about women's studies conferences in the spring. We have organized a one-day conference tentatively called "Falling off the blackboard: incorporating lesbian studies in the mainstream curriculum." Date: February 29, 1992. Place: York University in Toronto. Keynote speaker: Minnie Bruce Pratt. It's a bit remote I imagine for most users of this bulletin board, but we would appreciate hearing from anyone who would like more information or, possibly more to the point, from anyone who is involved in this sort of mainstreaming effort. It obviously grows out of and is related to women's studies, and is part of a larger (?) effort to incorporate into the existing curriculum the new perspectives and information that comes out of studying women. Material on lesbians is the extreme example, we think, of the sort of difficult and marginalized material that we want NOT to ghettoize (though without women's studies we will never manage to develop it). Thank you for your help. This is my first intervention here and I look forward to any responses. Naomi Black (tel: 416- 463-9252) bitnet nblack@yorkvm2 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 21:18:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: Grading It's been a strange day or two on WMST-L with lots of messages about what messages should be about. I thought I'd give an interesting response I received on a final exam. In social psychology we talk about race and gender at the end. I spent a lot of time discussing language and discussed how language often shapes rather than reflects reality. Among other things, we discussed words we use to refer to females and males, and how frequently the euphemism, "lady," is used for "woman," while "gentleman" is rarely used for "man." On the exam I asked, "What is the euphemism for "woman?" One student who clearly was not in class and does not know what euphemism means replied, "Bitch." I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Arnie Kahn fac_askahn@jmuvax (bitnet) fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (internet) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 21:22:22 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: VILLERS@OUACCVMB.BITNET Subject: Columbus There were a number of objectives to the travels of Columbus. In the first place, he did not set out to conquer since he had no idea there was anything left available. He went there to find a new route for the spice trade which in turn would help Spain make money. Spain was pretty much bankrupt at the time. The conquest happened once the Spaniards realized that what they had found was not known to them. Gold became an obsession once they realized there was lots of it to be had. Women, inevitably, became casualties of the conquest. There was also the search for the garden of eden especially since they hadn't found it in Africa. There are many good history books and novels in Spanish dealing with this period. Please check them out.There is also the question of syphilis and who gave it to whom. Anne Villers (Villers@ouaccvmb.bitnet) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 22:09:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "NAME'Janice M. Bogstad'" Subject: Re: Columbus and women kathleen March's message on Amazon women in teh new workd fits in with some work I am doing right now - on the history of amazon myth and its use as it relates to some newer science fiction, like THE GATE TO WOMEN'S COUNTRY. I did read an excellent book on the topic of amazon myth called "The War With the Amazons " or "The War Against the Amazons" but one dissertation director, a classicist, tells me that this is not very respectable or accurate. Is anyone else familiar with this book and can you offer me any defense of its theses, esp. with regard to Amazons as representative of barbarian forces and Amazons as lures to the new world? My address is Bogstajm@uwed.edu. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 09:51:19 GMT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: C.G.Perriam@DURHAM.AC.UK Subject: Re: Cookies and Random Acts There's a certain amount of Same here in England! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 07:09:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "JANIS BOHAN (556-3088/3205, MSC BOX 54)" Subject: RE: Columbus, women and network communication Ethel -- This is not really a reply to this particular message, but to the message you sent me earlier -- which my system seems to have eaten, even as I was posting a reply to it. Re: GS Hall, APA, etc. It's already Wed, and the deadline you name is Thursday (for an abstract for current round of APA proposals), so this discussion may be moot for the time. I'd enjoy playing around with such a panel (I think I understnd it would be about APA's avoiding uncomfortable information, misogynist tid-bits, etc.), but I'm in real time crunch just now. I also must admit to some seriously ambivalent feelings about APA conferences. I went this year (for the first time in several years) and found it so alien an environment -- old boys to the teeth, power plays, posturing, pretention -- that I vowed to save my travel time and money for more congenial conferences (AWP, a small group of feminist educators I've discovered, etc). I could perhaps muster the strength to do APA again if it were for a good "cause" -- as I think this might be. But this year sounds impossible, time wise. If you're interested in pursiung it for the future, 'd be willing to discuss it. Who am I? A historian of psy, with a particular interest in women's place in the history of psy (hence the book), a strong feminist bent, isolated by those two things from most of my colleagues, hence thirsty for constact with others of like mind. I know your work, and it would be a pleasure to work with you on something like this -- or just to chat by EMAIL. Janis Bohan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 09:18:44 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: rlbro%CONNCOLL.BITNET@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU Subject: Re: Grading I have enjoyed the controversy lately over what should and should not be on this list--it has been a nice distraction from grading and other end of the semester pursuits. (The cookies were not that good....) Next semester, I am teaching my first Women's Studies course, entitled Judaism and Feminism. This is an area that I have been reading in for several years, and I decided that it was the most vital and interesting aspect of modern Judaic Studies. I have shown my syllabus around to various people (a series of "re-readings" from a wide range of perspectives, including Bloom--a woman wrote most of Genesis--and Tuebal--women are only alluded to, but not really constituents in, biblical literature--and others. So far, so good. Yesterday, however, I had two interesting encounters: first, I received the pre-registration for the course. Twelve students signed up, all women. Second, I mentioned this fact to one of my colleagues (in our Women's Studies program), and her response was that I will not be able to believe how different it will be to teach a class composed only of women students. I have read a little bit about such classroom dynamics (i.e., male professor, female students), but really don't know what to expect. Anyone have either some personal experience to share or some advice as I enter my first such class? Maybe some notion of what one's first Women's Studies class is like? I'll be interested in seeing what we as a group have experienced. Thanks in advance, Roger Brooks Religious Studies Connecticut College rbrooks@conncoll.bitnet or rlbro@conncoll.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 09:39:47 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: TSTEUERN@KENTVM.BITNET Subject: gender and public policy I am interested in hearing about sources on gender and public policy, particularly those which deal with gender neutrality and special treatment. Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 09:23:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "wa0483@uokmvsa.bitnet" Subject: (COPY) A Psalm of Montreal (..this was posted on C18-L, regarding an ongoing discussion concerning a Goya nude (female) in a classroom which caused in-class disruption so the instructor (female) had it removed to a better location) "prudery?!"(last sentence) How convenient to so discretely trivialize and mislabel in the name of scholarship. Pam Doty, wa0483@uokmvsa.bitnet -------------------------TEXT-OF-FORWARDED-MAIL-------------------------------- >Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 04:47:15 PST >Sender: 18th Century Interdisciplinary Discussion > >From: John Sandys-Wunsch >Subject: A Psalm of Montreal The poem by Samuel Butler featured the Discobolus, an anatomically corrct and explicit statue of a Greek athlete (in fact a discus thrower). The poem is more than fifty years old and is a criticism of old fashioned prudery rather than the dismal modern variety we are all subject to (just try using "man" to denote the human species and you will find out what prudery is all about). ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 10:48:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: NJW@PSUVM.BITNET Subject: Re: gender and public policy In-Reply-To: TSTEUERN AT KENTVM.BITNET -- Wed, 11 Dec 1991 09:39:47 EST A book which is on my shelf but I haven't been able to get to yet is edited by Rebecca Grant and Kethleen Newland, called GENDER AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, published by Indiana Universty Press in 1991. Nancy Wyatt njw@psuvm ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 11:04:17 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Wayne J. Villemez" Subject: re: gender and public policy Try: DEFINING RAPE, Linda Bourque, 1989, Duke U. Press; REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND WRONGS, Betsy Hartmann, 1987, Harper&Row; and some of the chapters in THE POLITICS OF SOCIAL POLICY IN THE UNITED STATES, Margaret Weir,Ann Orloff,Theda Skocpol (eds.), 1988 Princeton U. Press. wjv ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 11:48:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: HENKING@HWS.BITNET Subject: Re: Grading i am trying to do some work on psychoanalysis, feminism and issues of race and wonder if anyone has bibliographical suggestions, especially linking psychoanalysis and race. i have read a few things -- including a piece in a recent book on kleinian psychological approaches. so.... anything on psychoanalysis and race (or racisim...)? susan (my direct email address, via bitnet is henking@hws) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 11:06:14 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Sandra Basgall Subject: Re: gender and public policy There are a couple of excellent books by Kathleen Staudt. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 09:45:38 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: USERWMST@UBCMTSA.BITNET Subject: job postings The University of B.C., Vancouver Canada has positions available in the Women's Studies department for instructors for the 1992-93 session. Summer Session May 4-July 25th Women's Studies 222 "An Introduction to Women's Studies" Women's Studies 224 "Women in Literature" Instructors are also needed for the same courses Winter Session September 1992-April 1993 Anyone interested should contact me for more details. This is directed in the first instance to Canadian citizens or permanent residents. jo hinchliffe wmst@ubca.mts.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 13:54:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: KINNEY@UNCG.BITNET Subject: nomail set wmst-l nomail I will be away from campus and unable to view my mail from 12/14/91 to 1/20/91. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 16:23:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: USRNAME Subject: RE: Grading laugh. anyone has ideas about explaining laughter as a response to "politically incorrect" jokes by those of us who are supposed to know better? one theoretical candidate i was offered was Freudean - a spasmatic response of the repressed.alternatives? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 16:30:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: USRNAME Subject: RE: gender and public policy There are several books on gender and public policy. Are you looking for references? AMI@BINGVAXA.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 15:44:00 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Re: gender and public policy As far as economic policy on wages and treatment of women - ie:comparable worth, and the whole "equal work for equal pay" question is concerned, one good source is: Heidi Hartmann National Research Council Committee on Women's Employment and Related Social Issues. she has written extensively on these issues in the 1980s ANother book, though not in economics is : Susan Moller Okin; 1989 Justice, gender and the family I hope these help. I too would be interested in teh complete list, once you have it. Good Luck, Elizabeth Herr ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 15:45:00 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "LAURA BORDER BORDER_L@CUBLDR.COLORADO.EDU" Subject: Re: nomail who is this message from???? Laura Border ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 15:50:00 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Re: gender and public policy I thought of two more sources: Marilyn Waring; 1988 If Women Counted:a new feminist economics. Harper Collins - this deals with how women's works does not end up being counted in GNP statistics for the most part, especially not in third world countries Women in the World Economy; by INSTRAW- UN international research and training institute for the advancement of women. 1987. Oxford press Elizabeth Herr ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 16:28:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: UAHSEF01@UAHVAX1.BITNET Subject: Cookie Clutter In a highly scientific study conducted by the UAH Women's reading and discussion group: 7 out of 7 feminists agreed that the Nieman Marcus (or whatever) cookies were delicious. ] Susan UAHSEF01@UAHVAX1 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 20:12:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: a class composed only of women students >Twelve students signed up, all women. >Second, I mentioned this fact to one of my colleagues (in our Women's >Studies program), and her response was that I will not be able to believe >how different it will be to teach a class composed only of women students. >I have read a little bit about such classroom dynamics (i.e., male professor, >female students), but really don't know what to expect. Roger and others, My experience is that your colleague is wrong. Most of the difference between an all-female, all-male, or mixed-sex classes is in the behavior of the instructor. Students react to messages the instructor gives. If you teach as "THE" authority, most students will be deferential, but occasionally challenge you. If you let them take charge I think you might find some sex of student effects--my experience is that female students are more likely to be more open and more personal. Could you send me a copy of your syllabus either by email or postal service? Or better still, send it to Joan Korenman and have it available to anyone via listserv@umdd. Arnie Kahn fac_askahn@jmuvax (bitnet) fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (internet) Department of Psychology James Madison U. Harrisonburg, VA 22807 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 17:18:07 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Holly Subject: Re: Grading In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 11 Dec 1991 09:18:44 -0500 from Can I get a copy of the course outline and reading list for the Judaism and Feminism course? Thanks, Holly Devor HHDD@UVVM.UVIC.CA ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 20:33:44 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Frank Dane Subject: RE: Grading In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 11 Dec 1991 16:23:00 EST from Modern racism (Kinder & Sears, 1981; explanations/treatments can be found in most any social psychology textbook) would posit that the laughter is an attempt to "cover" the fact that the politically incorrect joke has primed beliefs that remain in the person's attitude structure that are actually consistent with the joke. The laughter, then, comprises a response to those beliefs that reflect an effort on the part of the individual to relegate those beliefs to triviality. The essential notion that many (all?) of us know about stereotypes and prejudicial beliefs, and the mere activation of those beliefs produce some concern over their existence (even if the person no longer holds such beliefs to be true). For those who do hold such beliefs to be true--the modern rac/sex/ethnist--the joke context enables the individual to act on socially incorrect beliefs in a socially appropriate context. Thus, both those who are better and those who only want to appear to be better are likely to laugh at inappropriate jokes, but for very different reasons. Those who know better may laugh to ensure the (sincere) belief that "it was only a joke" while those who are X'ists laugh because it's safe to act upon their stereotypes/prejudice in that particular situation. One might detect differences between the two groups in responses to "jokes" that seem not to be meant as jokes. Those who know better should not laugh, modern X'ists would. Francis C. Dane, Assoc. Prof. & Chair Department of Pschology, Mercer University Macon, GA 31207-0001 USA FDANE@UGA.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1991 18:11:15 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Susan Ervin-Tripp W O M E N A N D L A N G U A G E C O N F E R E N C E Berkeley, California April 4-5 1992 Focusing primarily on definitions of LINGUISTIC POWER, the conference will explore the possibility of forging a closer connection between feminist theory and language-based research. The organizers welcome papers which propose new definitions of linguistic power and which analyze the workings of power in discourse. Interdisciplinary papers which address the intersection of gender, race, and class in language use are particularly welcome. We will explore the question of whether feminist theoretical approaches can be integrated into present linguistic models or whether we instead need to reorient existing parameters of linguistic analysis. ABSTRACTS DEADLINE: February 5, 1992. Contact: Women and Language Conference Organizers; 2337 Dwinelle Hall, Department of Linguistics Tel: 510-642-2757 University of Berkeley E-mail: khall@garnet.berkeley.edu Berkeley CA 94720. Registration fees: Before March 20, 1992: $10 students; $15 non-students. After March 20, 1992: $15 students, $20 non-students. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1991 08:08:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: NJW@PSUVM.BITNET Subject: Re: gender and public policy In-Reply-To: WMST-L AT UMDD.BITNET -- Wed, 11 Dec 1991 15:44:00 MST An excellent treatment of women and economics that addresses international issues is IF WOMEN COUNTED by Marilyn Waring. Nancy Wyatt njw@psuvm ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1991 08:50:22 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ethel Tobach Subject: RE: Columbus, women and network communication In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 11 Dec 1991 07:09:00 MDT from I am so glad you wrote. I agree with you..I woke up too late. However, let's continue to discuss possibilities...I resonate to your unhappiness with "professional" meetings...the one place in which there is a chance for things to be different is in Division 35...In connection with another issue in which I am involved, we were talking about having a think tank with people from social, i/o, political psych, spssi to discuss how to organize a campaign to counteract anti-science activities in the media... I have also been interested in doing that in relation to sociobiology es- pecially around the way rape is handled...there is already such a task force on sociobiology, politics and feminist psychology and we are having some difficulty turning our deeply felt criticisms of sociobiology, the APA's tacit approval of it, and how to combat it. I think that we should have a think tank like the one described above with members of Division 35 who are experts in those fields. You as a historian have a very special contribution...I am a firm believer in knowing the history so one can cut down on the possibility of making mistakes and reinventing the wheel. What do you think? Ethel ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1991 09:26:27 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: RB2000@RCN.BITNET Subject: Am. Native Women In-Reply-To: job postings <911211125714.00130BB0.AAAL.BB@BOOLE.RCC.RCN.EDU> Anyone know of publications and undergrsduate or graduate programs on Native American Women? I've had student inquiries on same. Thanks for any help. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1991 09:48:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: GCARR@FLINT.BUCKNELL.EDU Subject: psychoanalysis and race This note is in response to Susan Henking's request for information on psychoanalysis and race. I, too, have been doing work in this area and would appreciate that postings sent to her also be sent to me (or to the list). A good starting point for me in this area has been Harry Kitano's overview entitled Race Relations, 4th ed., Prentice-Hall, 1991. In Kitano's first chapter, "Major Issues," he discusses differing perspectives from the fields of history, psychiatry, psychology, and social work--which focus on individual conscious and unconscious desires, ambitions, etc--and sociology and social psychology which focus on the ways institutions construct those desires. Good bibliography here. I also value Franz Fanon's discussions of race--he's a psychoanalyst-- from a post-colonial perspective in Wretched of the Earth and Black Skins, White Masks. T