"WMST-L LOG9302D" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 04:13:52 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: RE811EN Subject: Women's Collaboration I have been enthralled and excited about the many fascinating and sometimes sad stories on "women's collaboration." I am glad so many of you take this issue seriously and see collaboration as a necessary part in maintainin our professional sanity and support systems. While I cannot provide a framework that shows how this collaboration works, I can say that many of your stories share similar themes--women who have internalized the competitive spirit, women who have much support, women seeking support. These stories that you share are important not only because the rest of us understand your positions but also you are sharing histories that many of us are not privy to in usual academic circles. I hope you will continue to write in and share your experiences about the successess and limitations of collaborating and how these experiences are shaped by your ethnicity, gender, culture, class, society and geography. Looking forward to further poly-logue Sue Hum Texas Christian University ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 07:23:20 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Kristine Anderson Subject: Re: Thomas - Hill Hearings In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 19 Feb 1993 13:28:35 -0600 from You could try the C-Span Archives here at Purdue for the Hill-Thomas Hearings: Public Affairs Video Archives, Stewart Center, Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN 7906. Phone: 317-494-9630. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 14:10:00 GMT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JAE2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK Subject: Re: wmst and new technologies Could I support Mary O'Sullivan's request to post re women's studies and new technology to the whole list? In England it's more a question of getting students of either gender to use computers etc. - the contrast with US students is massive - but the info would be really helpful anyway. Even at the very very lowest level of slides and handouts I sometimes wonder about mechanized knowledge - as a feminist theorist and computer person I suspect I'm split totally on all this - but I have taught by conference call (not Women's Studies; special arrangements for students who couldn't make seminars in comp. pol.) and oddly, felt it brought me closer to the students (we were all in our own homes, and I called them 'out of class' too) than ordinary teaching. They also did much better than most! (But that wasn't done to save money, as I suppose your developments are. Over here, that would tend to be the point. So maybe we ought to be opposing them anyway!) Judy Evans Politics York England jae2@uk.ac.york ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 09:18:12 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE Subject: RE: Women's Collaboration In regard to Kim Sum's message about women's collaboration, Helen Moglen and Evelyn Fox Keller's essay "Competition and Feminism: Conflicts for Academic Women" is a must read. It appeared in Signs (12) 1987, 493-511. Laurie Finke finkel@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 09:19:20 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE Subject: RE: Women's Collaboration Apologies to Sue Hum. In my last message I was referring to Sue Hum at Texas Christian. Unfortunately my email does not permit me to refer back to the message I am replying to when I'm writing it and my memory is terrible. Laurie Finke ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 10:35:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Barbara Marantz Subject: Reference on Israeli women? Some time ago someone described a recent book on Israeli women and feminism. I have (foolishly) misplaced the reference. Could/would someone remind me of the full reference? Please reply privately. Thank you. Barbara Marantz bmarantz@snyescva.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 15:44:00 GMT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JAE2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK Subject: (This is for Kali - and anyone else using email) Kali I'm sorry to use the list, but I can't get through to your personal email address (I often have problems with Internet, can't right now use uucp). I'd like to hear more about how a course is run by email. (There are teachers here who use it, but not in Soc Sci or Arts, and not interactively) Could you give me some idea of how to get to you?! Judy Evans jae2@uk.ac.york ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 11:32:51 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: David Loberg Code Subject: class e-mail accounts As a follow-up to Kali Tal's message regarding class e-mail accounts, I would like to share how I have found them personally and politically helpful (besides how they might help the students in the classes). I am married, with a 2-year old son. By the luck of our schedules, I teach all of my classes in the morning; my wife teaches only in the late afternoon/evening. As a result we share childcare, and one of us is always able to be with our son. I go in early, usually before 7:00 am, and come home at around 2:00 pm on most days. I have my office hours (more than required) at various times and days, but all before 2:00. I make committee meetings, and so on. And always make arrangements to accomodate other meeting times when asked. Nevertheless, because I am not around in the late afternoon, there is a perception that I am unavailable. Although I am at school for as long a time period as many of my colleagues, since most of them come in later in the morning there is a perception that I work short hours. That I come in, teach, and leave. I have felt pressured to have late afternoon office hours, conduct evening study sessions, stay until five, etc.. I now have class e-mail accounts for all of my classes. (By the way, I teach music theory). Students who can not make my office hours, or who have questions later in the day (or evening, or weekend), send me messages via e-mail. Each night, I check my messages via modem, and respond to their queries. My students are very happy with this set up. They feel that they have open access to me, and they get more personal attention. I no longer feel pressure from my students to be in my office all of the time. (I'm still working on solving the perception problem with my colleagues, but making the students happy helps somewhat in this regard as well.) I would appreciate hearing of similar experiences (pertaining to the balance of family and academic needs) and other solutions. David Loberg Code School of Music Western Michigan University code@gw.wmich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 10:42:02 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joya Misra Organization: Emory University - Atlanta, Georgia, USA Subject: WOMEN & UNION FILMS About a month or two ago, someone on the list asked for references for films about women and the union movement in the U.S. I couldn't think of any, but today got a flyer with two highly rated films, from the same company that supplies me with a film I show in my underdevelopment class - The Global Assembly Line. They are: "Union Maids" (A vivid oral history of women organizing in the 1930s... "Sitdowns, scabs, squads, unemployment, hunger marches, red baiting, and finally the energetic birth of the C.I.O....the story of three women who lived the history and make it come alive today") 48 minutes, 16 mm and video, by Julia Reichart, Jim Klein, and Miles Mogulescu "With Babies and Banners" (presents the untold story of the women who became the backbone of the Great General Motors Sit-Down Strike of 1937 - The natin's eyes were on the men inside the auto plans, while the women outside progressed from manning the striek kitchens to leading the famous Women's Emergency Brigade. Forty years later, nine of these women reunite, and show the relevance of their experience for people today") 45 minutes, 16 mm and video Both have won various awards - Blue Ribbon American Film and Video, Academy Award Nominees, Special Merit Chicago Film Festival, Outstanding Film of Year London Film Festival, First Prize Festival de Cinema (Port) etc. Order from: New Day Films 121 West 27th St Suite 902 New York, NY 10001 Phone: 212-645-8210, FAX: 212-645-8652 Joya Misra (SOCAK663@EMUVM1) Emory University - Sociology ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 17:11:10 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: karen Subject: Re: Body Image Course In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 18 Feb 1993 14:22:27 -0600 from In the March, 1990 issue of the American Psychologist is a good review of the literature on bulimia and anorexia in girls and women and it has some discussion of the role of idealized images of women's bodies in the proliferation of this disorder. The first author is Striegel-Moore, I believe.. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 00:18:43 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Chris Delbes Organization: The American University Subject: I am Back Hi all, it seems like the mainframe at the university made a mistake, and I have been cut off from th system during the weekend. I apologize for the inconvenience to those who tried to send me either the questionnaire on feminism and marriage or a note back about my request regarding Intimate Life Styles. I would appreciate if you tried it sending it back. It seems like I am back on the list and on the system. What a weekend! I am sorry again, and I am looking forward to your notes and questionnaires. Thanks A LOT. Chris ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 00:32:52 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Eugene Contreras Subject: literary info please I'm writing a paper comparing `Woman as a symbol of the land' in two Caribbean novels - Simone Schwarz-Bart's THE BRIDGE OF BEYOND and Charles Roumain's MASTERS OF THE DEW. Both books use this symbolic imagery, but from very different perspectives. What I'm looking for is some kind of feminist literary critisism dealing with this issue. I don't need a whole lot of references, just a couple of general studies on women's connectedness to the land in literature, preferably Caribbean but not necessarily. (My Prof suggested Camille Paglia, but from what little I know of her, I'm not impressed) Thanks, Eugene Contreras B7X8@MusicB.McGill.CA ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 02:11:15 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: U17334@UICVM.BITNET Subject: response to PC and Feminism Ain't I A Gender*: A response to Joan Mandle's plea for outreach to men, coalition politics and criticism of separatism by Women's Studies. (*phrase used by Mary Daly to criticize "Gender Studies"). Joan based her analysis on the assumptions that: 1) there is no question that feminism and feminists have more presence and more power on campus than was true a decade ago or even more recently and that 2) a zero-sum (i.e., a conflict model) sex/gender analysis is untrue. Since someone put her article on the Women's Studies list, I am sending this to the List, (as well as to the _SWS Network News_ newsletter where it first appeared) having given myself time to cool off. I didn't. This letter should not be interpreted as a personal attack on Joan, who is one of the Founding Mothers of SWS. We live in different worlds. I live in a world where I have to deal day in and day out with male violence against women. I live in a world where Women's Studies at the Univ. Illinois, on the assumption, I think, of enhancing or firming up its power and presence, threw me overboard like Iphiginea when the Dean wanted me out. Had Women's Studies defended me and won, maybe we could talk about power and presence. 1) More Presence and More Power? Those of us who hands-on study violence against women and teach courses dealing with that topic were probably as surprised as I was in reading about our power. I started by clipping articles dealing with violence against women, each time thinking power? What power? I spoke at Stanford University some time ago for Rape Awareness week. In my discussion session with the dorm members, the first comment was from a man who felt bad because women didn't trust him. We spent the entire time trying to make him feel better. I determined that I never was going to be caught in that trap again. The discussion was supposed to focus on how women are oppressed by rape and fear of rape and how they can deal with it. I was not going to teach or lead discussion groups primarily of women focussed on making the men feel OK, particularly not at the expense of the women, although many of us currently feel pressure to do so. Were women's studies to lead in having acquaintance rape prosecuted (which it is not in Cook County in most cases) and the perpetrators found guilty, we could talk about clout. Were the rape and battery laws and incest laws enforced, we could talk about clout. Were women's studies nationally leading demonstrations when a man, whose rape of his wife was videotaped, but was found not guilty, we could talk about presence. Were intense misogyny, especially against mothers whether on welfare or with high status jobs in the labor force, not to have surfaced in the Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood cases, we could talk about our power. Were mothers scapegoated for drugs and child "neglect" not being prosecuted... I could go on and on, but I want to say that my E mail has been full of women who are being discriminated against because they are women, and women who study violence against women are particularly vulnerable, according to Annis Pratt, NWSA Chair of discrimination issues. Positions such as Joan Mandle's insult us and invalidate our pain. I do not believe that the function or even a function of women's studies is to allay men's fears and make them feel bettet about the women's movement. Black Studies, Asian Studies, Chicana Studies and Native American Studies do not see their mission as doing outreach to white people. Their focus, as it should be, is to empower people of color. If whites take the classes, they have the opportunity to learn another perspective, to learn about their privilege. If they don't like it, they can take other classes. The emerging field of Gay and Lesbian Studies is aimed at Lesbian and Gay people. Why should Women's Studies be into missionary work? The answer that came to mind is compulsory heterosexuality--women want/have to live with men, and thus men have to be placated. Or even more important, women want/need to have lunch with them. 2) Not a zero/sum issue? Not a conflict model? No group in power gives up its privilege because of persuasion. Men have privilege, and many are angry that they are losing bits of it, or perceive that they are. I take the positions I do, not because I believe in progress but because I am bearing witness to what is right and true. Just because we would like to imagine a future world in which sexism has disappeared, rape is nonexistent, battery has vanished all through coalition politics doesn't mean that it will occur (see Bosnia, Hillary bashing, your daily newspaper). Don't base your strategies on fantasy. Politics is not therapy, as MacKinnon said. The purpose of analysis is not to make women feel good or hopeful. We must describe what is. No one has demonstrated that battery groups or rape groups have changed men permanently. Live with it!!! Or die with it, but tell the truth. Don't lie or deny, no matter how good that makes you feel. It is significant that my, and other, research shows that it is not by reasoning with men that women's chance of avoiding rape is increased. It is by yelling, fighting back and fleeing. Pleading is associated with being raped. Joan criticizes women who want to exclude men from their groups. I am not and never have been a separatist, even having written a poem mocking the banning of boy babies at the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival ("Hysteria at Hesperia"). Yet separatists share the fate of other women. For the most part separatists don't rape, sexually harass, and incest us or our students. Sure, my best students have been men. Because men who work with me are exceptional. I write with them. I love them. One named his first child after me. But it wasn't because I did outreach to them. One, called me before enrolling in my class, saying, "I'm a Marxist-Leninist, and therefore I know you have a right to keep me out of your class." Another man, head of my student support group, told Women's Studies that while men could learn from women, they shouldn't teach women's studies because men should not be experts on women's condition. He named his son after me--Paulito (Paulo) because he identifies me with the martyrs in Chile where his father was tortured. Two of the ten men in the class that there was "trouble in" signed up for my feminist theories class, which, of course, I was not allowed to teach because of the complaints of one male undergraduate and one male Associate Professor. But I didn't dilute my message to gain their approval. Additionally, most of the support I have received from the University of Illinois Chicago have been from men. I assume the women are too scared (so much for clout). Whether one takes the standpoint of the reasonable woman or the reasonable man in rape, battery, incest and sexual harassment cases and laws, a zero sum analysis furnishes the best analysis. Case law shows that the reasonable man thinks no means yes, that nagging is an excuse for battery, and who has a sense of entitlement to goods and services from women as a class, and in my case to women faculty in the classroom. There is no such thing as a reasonable person, although the Supreme Court in Gilbert referred to pregnant persons. As for us having more presence and power, I strongly disagree. Years ago, we had a Women's Movement, and Women's Studies was its academic arm. Now we have gender studies and feminist theory, much of which is impenetrable and irrelevant to most women's lives. According to Carol Anne Douglas in _off our backs_, theory that has to do with women's lives, i.e. MacKinnon, is considered "low theory." Joan Mandle also says that we must compromise in order to build coalitions. Just what does she want to compromise? Date rape? Marital rape? Sexual harassment? Abortion "on demand"? Who will be the Iphigenea that they will next throw overboard to make the winds friendly? I remember years ago when the Chicago Women's Liberation Union "compromised" with men of color and said nothing about abortion in its International Women's Day March. They thought abortion was safely ours. Of course, they were wrong. More recently, Chicago feminist coalition politics meant hiding Harold Washington's close relationship with Playboy and refusing to take a stand on Judge Eugene Pincham's execrable blaming-the-victim decisions in rape cases. Marilyn Frye said the only position for Women's Studies on campus is adversarial. As one of the founders of women's studies, I always thought our major function was to criticize not simply discrimination but the entire epistemology, the entire apparatus that subordinates women and children. Audre Lorde said we cannot use the master's tools to tear down the master's house. She did not say we should compromise with the master, eat at his table, be charming and make him and his friends feel that we are not a threat. If we are not a threat, then we are not doing our job. And it is only by not being a threat that Women's Studies can have, at least temporarily, the presence and power of which Joan speaks. Most of the support I have received from the University of Illinois at Chicago faculty has been from men. I assume the women were too insecure to learn the facts or to side with someone out of favor. With presence and power like that who needs enemies!! I had a choice. To invalidate the experiences of the majority of the women in my class, or to make the two complaining men comfortable. One of them, who later went to Affirmative Action about me, said that women can't do construction work, that Arlie Hochschild's _The Second Shift_ (a required reading) was biased because he did most of the housework, that a student who said a woman could say "no" anytime was "on an ego trip," and that he didn't know the difference between sex and rape. He terrorized the women in the class so that their Title IX rights were violated because they were afraid to speak. They thought they would be attacked outside of class. Yet a former Director of Women's Studies, not at the University of Illinois, told me that if the women couldn't "take it," they should be in therapy, not in class!!! Comments such as that make me wonder whether we have accomplished anything at all. That's just what Rush Limbaugh said to me. Since I can't leave on this note, without a joke to break the tension, and because titles sometimes come to me before articles (I'm still looking for an article to match my title "The End of Etiology"), I encourage you to read my next, as yet unwritten, essay, "Moby Dyke and the Search for the Great White Male." Pauline B. Bart Pauline B. Bart U17334@UICVM.UIC.EDU (University of Illinois at Chicago) Everything is data, but data isn't everything... Don't kill the messenger! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:15:46 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: angela%bchem.dnet@DXI.NIH.GOV Subject: Estimates on violence against women.... Does anyone know where I might find current projections of the number of women raped in this country. I am looking for similar information on the number of women murdered as a result of domestic violence, the number of women battered, the number of girls molested and raped, and the number of children murdered through domestic violence. I don't need absolute accuracy (I'm not even sure this is possible), just something like daily, hourly, or minute by minute estimates. iana pattatucci "angela%bchem.dnet@dxi.nih.gov" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:28:32 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MKORP@UOTTAWA.BITNET Subject: Re: literary info please In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 23 Feb 1993 00:32:52 EST from You'll want to read: Kolodny, Annette. The Lay of the Land: Metaphor as experience and history in American Life and Letters. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1975. Kolodny also had a lengthy essay (two, three weeks ago?) in the NYT Book Review. Best wishes, Maureen Korp, PhD University of Ottawa ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:32:59 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Erin Hewitt Subject: Ohio WS Programs I have an undergraduate student who's husband has been transferred to Cincinatti. She is finishing off her B.A. in Psychology with a strong interest in WS, and wants to pursue a Master's degree in Psychology. She is interested in finding out if anyone at Cincinatti University or the University of Ohio at Columbus in Psychology works from a feminist perspective. She is also interested in WS graduate programs. Please respond privately to: ECHEWITT@VM1.YORKU.CA Erin Hewitt, Psychology, York University, Toronto, Canada ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 11:04:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "IRENE HANSON FRIEZE. PSYCHOLOGY" Subject: Re: Estimates on violence against women.... A good source of information about rapes and homicides (at least those reported in anonymous surveys) is the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U. S. Dept of Justice. They publish lots of excellent and free material. Call them at 800-732-3277. !************************************************************ ! ! Irene Hanson Frieze Bitnet: FRIEZE@PITTVMS ! Dept of Psychology Internet: FRIEZE@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU ! University of Pittsburgh Phone: (412) 624-4336 ! !************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:38:17 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jacquelyn Marie Subject: Re: Estimates on violence against women.... In-Reply-To: (null) This is actually a note to everyone on list. As I Women's Studies Librarian and there are many of us on this list, I need to know if people asking research questions have first consulted their library at their institution or one in their city. Most academic institutions have a librarian who specializes in women's/feminist/gender studies and would be glad to help you. Just ask at a reference desk. I do not want to do research that could be done by your local librarian. Another benefit of consulting with them is then they have a better knowledge of areas you are working on and how to expand or imrove their collection. Thanks for reading this. Jacquelyn Marie Library Un. of California Santa Cruz, Ca. 95064 jmarie@scilibx.ucsc.edu On Tue, 23 Feb 1993 angela%bchem.dnet@DXI.NIH.GOV wrote: > Does anyone know where I might find current projections of the number of women > raped in this country. I am looking for similar information on the number of > women murdered as a result of domestic violence, the number of women battered, > the number of girls molested and raped, and the number of children murdered > through domestic violence. I don't need absolute accuracy (I'm not even sure > this is possible), just something like daily, hourly, or minute by minute > estimates. > > iana pattatucci > "angela%bchem.dnet@dxi.nih.gov" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:44:27 EST Reply-To: p_caplan@utoroise.BITNET Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Possible PMS reclassification Paula Caplan, who is not a WMST-L subscriber, recently sent me the following note about possible reclassification of PMS (premenstrual syndrome) by the American Psychiatric Association: > I am a psychologist at the University of Toronto and Ontario Institute for > Studies in Education. Seven years ago, the American Psychiatric Association > proposed three deeply anti-woman categories of mental disorder for its > handbook of mental disorders (the DSM), which is extremely influential in > deciding all over the world who is defined as normal. Anyway, as you may > know, these proposed categories pathologized women. Some of us organized > a petition and letter campaign aimed at keeping the categories out, and > we had some limited success. Now they are revising the handbook, and though > it looks like our efforts at keeping Self-defeating Personality Disorder > out (it's the one that blames women for their unhappiness, says they > really enjoy it, etc.) have almost succeeded, they are probably going to > include Premenstrual Syndrome AS A PSYCHIATRIC DISORDER (not just as some > mood or behavior or physical changes that happen to some women before > their periods, but A MENTAL ILLNESS) -- they plan to include it, and the > deadline is just about three weeks away. What they do tend to worry about > is the media and public pressure. I have written a one-page info sheet > and petition that I'd love to get to as many women and women's groups as > possible. How would I go about using your network (WMST-L) for that? And > is that appropriate? > > Thanks so much for your help. > > Paula Caplan P_CAPLAN@UTOROISE (Bitnet) > (telephone 416 922-3825 -- in Toronto; prefer contact via e-mail) Since this seemed to me both important AND related to the academic side of Women's Studies, I have put Paula's info sheet and petition in the WMST-L filelist under the name PMS PETITION. Interested people can retrieve the file by sending the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet): GET PMS PETITION WMST-L Please DO NOT SEND MESSAGES about this to WMST-L or to me. If you wish more information, you can contact Paula Caplan, whose e-mail address and phone number appear above. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 14:19:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: 1 symposium, 1 call for papers I have received the following two announcements: 1) Symposium: Women and the Arts in the Renaissance 2) CFP: Cultural Dynamics and Virtual Culture (EJVC) For more information, please contact the people named in the announcements, not WMST-L or me. Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc) ********************************************************** 1) THE NATIONAL MUSEUM OF WOMEN AND THE ARTS PRESENTS: WOMEN AND POWER A Symposium on Women and the Arts in the Renaissance Friday, March 12, 1993, 9:30 am - 4:30 pm Saturday, March 13, 1993, 9:00 am - 4:30 pm The intent of this two-day multidisciplinary symposium is to offer fresh insights on women and the arts during the Renaissance, with a particular emphasis on the topic of women and power. Scholars in the areas of art history, literature, history, and women's studies will investigate the participation of women in the shaping of culutre and the shaping of women by culture. Keynote speakers: Peggy Liss will speak on Isabella of Spain and Mary Beth Rose on Elizabeth I of England. Please make payment to the NMWA, Renaissance: Symposium is free; the Concert on March 12 is $10/per person; the lunch on March 13 is $14/person: Education Dept., NMWA 1250 New York Avenue, NW. Washington, DC 20005 For additional information, please call: (202) 783-7371. THE REGISTRATION DEADLINE IS MARCH 8 FOR THE SYMPOSIUM AND CONCERT, AND MARCH 5 FOR THE LUNCHEON. ************************************************************************ 2) [Note: The following announcement doesn't specifically mention gender issues, but they are clearly relevant. JK] Call for Articles: Electronic Journal of Virtual Culture Submitted by Jay Lemke Special Issue: Cultural Dynamics and Virtual Culture Issue Editor: Jay Lemke (JLLBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU; JLLBC@CUNYVM.BITNET) EJVC is a new peer-reviewed electronic journal dedicated to scholarly research and discussion of all aspects of computer-mediated human experience, behavior, action, and interaction. This special issue will be devoted to a discussion of the ways in which virtual culture can contribute to significant social and cultural change. Relevant topics include, but are by no means limited to: computer-mediated communication and information access, hypertext and hypermedia, and virtual reality technologies in relation to present and future changes in education and other social institutions, including higher education and scholarship, political institutions and power relationships, workplace activity, and literary and artistic production. Deadlines: April 15, 1993 submission of abstracts October 1, 1993 submission of contributions Abstracts will be reviewed by the issue editor for appropriateness of content, promise of general interest, and overall balance of the issue as a whole. Authors will then be invited to submit full-length contributions, which will be peer-reviewed by the journal's normal editorial process before final acceptance for publication. The issue editor welcomes correspondence about proposed contributions even before submission of an abstract. Potential contributors may obtain a more detailed statement about the focus and range of this special issue by sending electronic mail to the issue editor with the Subject line: EJVC Issue or by anonymous ftp to byrd.mu.wvnet.edu, directory /pub/ejvc, get dynamics.issue file. (This file is listed as dynamics.call4art) JAY LEMKE. City University of New York. BITNET: JLLBC@CUNYVM INTERNET: JLLBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 12:12:44 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Barbara.Lesch.McCaffry@SONOMA.EDU Subject: Message for Sharon Danoff Date 2/23/93 Subject Message for Sharon Danoff >From Barbara Lesch McCaffry To WMST Subscribers Subject: Time:11:08 AM OFFICE MEMO Message for Sharon Danoff Date:2/23/93 This is a message for Sharon Danoff-Burg and Diane Kobrynowicz aa the adress in their message did not work-- You probably want to look at Naomi Wolf's Beauty Myth. A colleague here, Ann Woodhead, taught a course on Body Image last Spring using the text. Her phone number at Sonoma State is 707-664-2735. Good luck! barbara.lesch.mccaffry@sonoma.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 15:45:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: COLUMBUS@HWS.BITNET Subject: Re: Estimates on violence against women.... good for you, Jacquelyn Marie of the Un. of California Library. I can understand asking for arcane info., but biblios.? claudette columbus, served by the great library with MultiLis and interlibrary loan facilities and a terrific library staff! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 16:50:58 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Converted from OfficeVision to RFC822 by PUMP V2.2X From: Linda Lopez McAlister Subject: New Film Review Added: The Cemetery Club On Saturday, February 20, 1993 I broadcast a review of "The Cemetery Club" on "The Women's Show" a feminist magazine-format program on community radio station WMNF-FM (88.5) in Tampa, Florida (70,000 watts of power to the people!). It is now available from the FILM FILELIST. To obtain a copy of this review send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet): GET FILM REV65 FILM To obtain a list of all the film reviews available, send a message to the same listserv address that says: INDEX FILM To get more than one review, put each command on a separate line: GET FILM REV6 FILM GET FILM REV14 FILM GET FILM REV39 FILM The number of files you can request on any calendar day is limited to twenty. The opinions expressed in these reviews were mine when I wrote the review and represent one woman's opinion at a particular time.We have over 1300 subscribers to WMST-L so there are probably 1299 other views. If you would like to share yours, please do NOT do so on the WMST-L itself, but send your messages to me personally at the addresses below. I have appreciated the feedback I've received. Thanks. Linda Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA: A Journal of Feminist Philosophy Women's Studies Dept. Internet: DLLAFAA@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU Univ. of South Florida Bitnet: DLLAFAA@CFRVM Tampa, FL 33620 (813) 974-5531 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 17:31:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: John Kellermeier Subject: Gender, Culture and Mathematics Thanks to all the people who responded to my previous post about the Gender, Culture and Mathematics course I am putting together. I got more requests for what information I already had than sources of further information. Apparently, nobody has seen such a course so far. I will definitely make my syllabus available sometime latter this semester when I've completed it. John Kellermeer kellerjh@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 19:21:50 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Temma Berg Subject: Fannie Hurst Society/Newsletter I write to let subscribers of WMST-L know about the Fannie Hurst Society/Newsletter. On July 16, 1991, Susan Koppelman began "The Fannie Hurst Newsletter" as an informal newsletter of announcements and tidbits regarding the Jewish American writer, Fannie Hurst. In October of 1991, several Fannie Hurst scholars met at the Midwest Popular Culture Association meeting to discuss Susan's two upcoming Hurst anthologies. It was here that the Fannie Hurst Society was conceived; it was also at this meeting that the newsletter changed address and moved to Gettysburg College. However, Susan Koppelman is still very much the heart and soul of the operation. If you would like to know more about the Fannie Hurst Society/ Newsletter, please write to me at my email address: tberg@gettysburg.edu.bitnet. If you would like to join the Fannie Hurst Society and receive a subscription to The Fannie Hurst Newsletter, please send $6 ($3 for students and others who need a reduced rate) to Temma Berg, Department of English, Gettysburg College, Gettysburg PA 17325, along with your address. Please make checks payable to Gettysburg College. If you are interested in receiving last year's issues, send subscription fee and address to Susan Koppelman, 6301 Washington Ave., St. Louis, MO 63130. We welcome articles and contributions about Fannie Hurst's work, life, and times. We also welcome articles and contributions about teaching Fannie Hurst's novels and short stories. Send articles and contributions to me at Gettysburg College. Thank you. Temma Berg Department of English Gettysburg College Gettysburg PA 17325 email: tberg@gettysburg.edu.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 16:30:04 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Harold Frank Subject: Teaching Women in Management Courses Subject: Teaching Women in Management Courses: A Case Approach Secondary Issue: Pressures placed on males who teach such courses A subscriber to the WMST-L@umdd.umd.edu relayed a request on behalf of Professor Karsten of the U of Wisconsin for information about materials and experiences related to teaching a course about women in management. In the late 70's, while teaching at the Wharton School, I wrote a book entitled WOMEN IN THE ORGANIZATION (University of Pennsylvania Press). The genesis of the project was to help prepare what was then a largely male student body for careers in which they would work with women as peers. (Profits from the book went to NOW's Education and Legal Defense Fund). The text was prompted by a paper published with Carol S. Wolman, M.D. in the Archives of Psychiatry entitled "The Solo Woman in a Professional Peer Group." The latter was a discussion of the socializing patterns women encountered in groups dominated by male norms. We learned that men had more difficulty relating to women as peers than to women as either subordinates or superordinates. The book included actual cases in which women played central roles in managerial settings across a broad range of industries -- medicine, law, insurance, and so forth. A dozen or so articles written largely by leading women researchers were included for reference. The research, was based on case studies of 90 women (culled from a sample of 1100) at most organizational levels, of varied ages, and in many industries, and from the professions. 13 were selected for their teaching value and published in the book. What did all this research teach us? In essence, we learned that Women manage as well and as poorly as men do. ok Such a finding may hardly seem worthy of so time consuming an effort, but the 70's was a time when otherwise well informed people believed gender alone was a criterion for managerial incompetence. An analogous situation existed in medicine and the law. The text was supplemental to a basic one in organization behavior. We used it through the mid-1980's and still use it for reference. The course was organized around discussion of the cases in the text. Each class included close to 100 people in a section. Initially, 4% were women (today 40% + are, nationwide). We met twice per week for an hour and a half. Outside of class, students prepared cases within four person discussion teams. If class size can be kept to under 40, case discussion can be combined with experienced based exercises, and field observations in local organizations (e.g. campus police, local hospitals, insurance companies, manufacturing concerns, post offices and government agencies) conducted by teams of students charged with writing their own cases. All this is doable in a once per week 3 hour course lasting 16 weeks with either undergraduates or graduates. A good deal of information on the case method is available from the Harvard Business School. We had excellent results with the method and preferred it to more conventional teaching techniques. Student eevaluations typically were very high. In a previous posting, someone wrote about experiencing social disapproval from colleagues for being involved with research on women and teaching a Women in Management Course. My experience, summarized below, confirms that. Initially, disapproval was expressed in the form of jokes about what might be going on behind my office door when women were in there working with me. Some of the women who helped with the research were especially attractive -- a consequence of the fact that Ivy League business school typically require several years of work experience prior to admission. Hence, the women had been socialized to norms of dress associated with corporations. Add to that the bias corporations and society have in favor of people of north european extraction and you have some idea of what my colleagues were responding to. Later on, especially after the work began receiving attention in the media, the legitimacy of case research was called into question. I was asked to explain its relevance to central issues in the development of management as a science. Research on women was seen as application research, which is to say not theoretical. Lastly, some colleagues, men and women alike, cautioned me to leave such research and teaching to women researchers and instructors. One colleague, a man of great stature in the university, known for his pragmatism, said simply: "... the issue of women is going to be a political one for the next 20 years or more. Do you want to risk an academic career on politics, and on a constituency which probably will not stick by you?" ******************************************************************** Harold H. (Hal) Frank, Adjunct Professor, School of Public Administration-USC hfrank@mizar.usc.edu (=preferred); P.O. Box 41992 Los Angeles, CA 90041 - (213) 254- 1022 (direct/voice mail); 213-740-0001 = fax. ********************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:13:30 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Mary Roberson \\ 513/229-2166" Subject: Need Reference I am a women's studies/international studies/psychology scholar. Because of my feminist and women's studies world view, I am less boundaried about academic disciplines than most. I prefer to educate myself widely, teach psychology of women with a supplementary women's studies reader, and write in a very interdisciplinary way, grounded in psychology since that is my primary expertise. I am in the process of formulating a response to two letters to the editor, submitted in critique of a journal article on Palestinian refugee women in a special issue of Women and Therapy. When a Palestinian perspective is presented (without focusing on the suffering and experience from the Israeli perspective), there is always a reaction. Understandably so. There are many "Truths" in this difficult area. The dialogue is often highly emotional on all "sides." I plan an empathic response, but one which defends my right to publish the voices, historical perspective, and experience from the perspective of the Palestinians themselves (which is somewhat different than my own and one that often differs from that portrayed by the US media). One of the main criticisms is that I gave a political and historical overview as a preface and end notes which were critical of the Shamir government. No other article in this issue made any reference to the context of how people became refugees. Also, most refugees are no longer under the "rule" of the people they fled, so I described the occupation, a large part of the Palestinian experience. Because of this the article clearly has an educational/political agenda--it is making a case (without stating the words) that the occupation should end. The letter authors maintain that Women and Therapy is a psychology journal and the articles should have been focussed on how refugees refugees cope with stress, without reference to their context. My experience is that Psychology is a bit more insular than many of the disciplines that contribute to women's studies--other disciplines make use of psychological theory and research. But psychologists don't tend to read widely and integrate the work of other disciplines into their scholarly work. Are there any references to that effect? Is it appropriate to publish interdisciplinary articles in disciplinary publications? Frankly, it never occurred to me to talk about the Palestinians without reference to their context, especially since most professional psychologists know very little about world politics. It comes with the individual focus, I think. However, since a couple of members in my department also criticized my article in this way, I have fits of wondering if these people are right. I am new on the academic scene, yet as a student for many years I heard about lawsuits over devalued interdisciplinary work, women's studies work. "It's not psychological enough." "It is unscholarly and biased; you have to present both sides." Now it is happening to me. I am sensitive to the rising tides of anti-Semitism in the world which creates anxiety which in turn leads to a feeling of insecurity about Israel. But do you always have to talk about all of that, especially in journal that is focussed on refugee women and in an article on Palestinian women? Enough. Please reply privately and thank you very much, in advance. Thanks also for "listening." Mary K. Roberson BITNET%"ROBERSON@DAYTON" INTERNET%"ROBERSON@UDAVXB.OCA.UDAYTON.EDU" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 08:41:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ebecca Sharpless Subject: Bib references For those seeking bibliographic information: If your institution has Internet, you can probably get into the on-line card catalogs of many libraries. From my office I can get into the University of Texas, Berkeley, Harvard, and so on. It's a wonderful service. (Now if we could just get Books in Print in that format. . .) Ask your reference librarians about how to do this on your system. Rebecca Sharpless SHARPLESSR@BAYLOR ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 10:28:03 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: frenzella elaine de lancey Subject: Re: WMST Advisory Boards In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 10 Feb 1993 19:42:04 EST from On Feb. 10 Rosemary Feal wrote to the list asking for information about the ro le of advisory boards for Women's Studies centers. We at Drexel University are also looking into the same arrangement for our center. May we hear from those who have "local or national advisory boards . . . ; how are they formed, how do they function re: administering and fundraising for the center. Please respond privately to: F. E. De Lancey Women's Studies Drexel University 33rd & Chestnut Sts. Philadelphia, PA 19104 Tel: (215) 895-2433 FAX: (215) 895-1414 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 10:06:36 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DICKSTEI@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU Subject: Bib references Rebecca Sharpless is right about many libraries have the capacity of getting into other library's catalogs. Also, many library's can provide access to the basic OCLC database (which is almost like Books in Print, but more) through an end user system called FIRSTSEARCH. If your library uses OCLC for its cataloging and your library is not subscribing to FIRSTSEARCH, then ask to learn how to use OCLC. It is a humongous database of shared cataloging input by several thousand libraries and has been ongoing since the mid-1970's. It is especially helpful because it includes materials owned by the Library of Congress. Ruth Dickstein University of Arizona dickstei@ccit.arizona.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 12:31:27 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jackie Wilkie Subject: Courses at University of Nottingham I have a student who will be part of Luther College's Nottingham program in England next year. Do any of the British members of the womne's Studies List have suggestions for courses she could take to fulfill women's studies requirements at our home institution in beautiful Decorah IA? We are especially interested in lab science courses which would have a feminist focus. Also is there any information on a course at Nottingham entitled "Hollywood and the European Cinema" [D"? Wilkieja@luther.uni.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 13:15:01 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: BONNIE COX Subject: Re: Bib references In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 24 Feb 93 12:39:07 EST from I think we have firstsearch in reference -- that is that they can do searches for you. I haven*t had the opportunity to play around with it-- it is essentially a subject access to the OCLC database, rather than just an author/ title access. I think I am staying warm -- they supposedly finally came to bleed the air out of my radiators today so that I can finally get heat from the new furnace in my study and bedroom. There has been a lot of flannel nightgown and sock action for the past three weeks! -- bonnie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 13:38:56 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: BONNIE COX Subject: apologies Now that the whole world knows about my lack of heat and my flannel nightgowns, I guess I can apologize for not noting that a local e-mail correspondent had forwarded to me, not e-mailed me directly about FIRSTSEARCH. MY apologies -- Bonnie Cox, University of Kentucky ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 16:59:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SERNEKOS@ZODIAC.RUTGERS.EDU Subject: Program on Egg "Donation" A friend of mine told me he saw a story on the news within the last few weeks. (He thinks it was the national news, or one of those news "magazine" type shows.) The relevant segment of the show dealt with the practice of egg "donation" by young women to infertile women. Some students at Rutgers were interviewed, and a NJ infertility clinic's practices were contrasted with another clinic (in California, he thinks) that does not permit women who have not had a child to donate eggs. Does anyone remember seeing this? If so, what show was it? (A date of broadcast would be wonderful, but all I really need is the name of the show.) My students and I have discussed this practice and I am very interested in what the show had to say. Thanks very much. Please respond privately to: SERNEKOS@ZODIAC.RUTGERS.EDU Loretta Sernekos Rutgers University ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 17:00:14 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jane Elza Subject: cross listing/grants I have two questions. In our small school, someone who offers a course with a ws prefix cannot then teach what she would 'normally' teach in the department. What are the mechanics of cross-listing? getting credit for the students in the courses is the major obstical for ws courses. Is there a way to give the department credit and still double list the course? Buying out the professor is not a current option. Also, does anybody know of any financial aid, grants, foundation programs available for funding ws research, especially through e-mail or electronic journals? jane elza Pos department VSC Valdosta Ga jelza.cug.catfish@grits.valdosta.peachnet.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 15:47:33 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jacquelyn Marie Subject: our bodies ourselves reviews Hello everyone. Thanks for attending to my previous message re doing library research before writing in. I am asking for a colleague if anyone is planning to write a review on the New Our Bodies Ourselves or know of a recent review. We have tried the usual book review indexes, computer searches on Current Contents, Medline, Academic Index, Newspaper Index. She would also be interested in any comments anyone has on the book itself, personal or otherwise. Her name and E-mail are Debbie Murphy E-mail: murphy@scilibx.ucsc.edu and you can send your comments to her directly. Thanks. J. marie p.s. She has also checked the latest Women's Studies Abstracts. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 19:58:02 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DICKSTEI@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU Subject: get in touch with Kansas Sharon Danoff-Burg and Diane Kobrynowicz sent a request in a message last week, but their e-mail address listed does not work. Could either of you send me directly your snail mail address, and a faculty member here will send you requested syllabi. Thanks Ruth Dickstein University of Ariozna dickstei$ccit.arizona.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 19:03:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MEDELSTEIN@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: etiquette re: info. requests? Jacquelyn Marie, a W.S. librarian, recently posted a message to the list encouraging everyone to do library research before posting queries to this list. While it's true that we've all seen queries that look like they would have been easy to resolve with a minimum of library research, and while librarians on the list shouldn't be burdened with work women's studies scholars can do for themselves, it does seem to me that part of the point of this list is to tap into other people's expertise. If I can answer someone's query easily, with a moment's thought, or someone can answer mine, why not post such queries (and answers, if and when they are of general interest) to this list? I was a little worried after reading that advice to do library research _before_ posting queries that everyone would feel intimidated about posting any queries without having spent hours in the library first. I also suspect that some people on this list don't have access to first-rate libraries; certainly, many of us don't have women's studies librarians, nor do we have colleagues familiar with the range of women's studies work outside of one or two specific disciplines. What do others think of this issue of posting basic queries to the list? To post or not to post? Marilyn Edelstein Dept. of English, Santa Clara U, Santa Clara CA ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 00:20:40 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: J.BERG@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU Subject: re: etiquette re: info. requests? Perhaps queriers could indicate the level of effort they have already made. For example, one might ask 'Just off the top of your head, do any of you happen to know . . .?' Then we would all understand that we need not rush off to the library to look up the answer. On the other hand, if the message were 'After hours of frustrating research, I turn to this list in a last desperate effort to save my job . . .' we might be moved to more effort in response. John Berg j.berg@acad.suffolk.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 22:52:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "m.c. schraefel" Subject: Re: etiquette re: info. requests? In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 24 Feb 1993 19:03:00 PST from thank you very much for your words to keep the lines of request open. we're a quick resourse for each other. and heh, if we think lowly of a particular request, well, just don't take your time to respond... i appreciate the interactive resources and have gleaned bibliogrpahies in areas that i may have never even considered looking at at ll prior to seeing a question about them raised. again thanks mc schraefel u of victoria, dept. of english ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 08:06:14 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: lin collette Subject: Re: etiquette re: info. requests? In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 24 Feb 1993 19:03:00 PST from ALthough I sympathize with the need to keep the list to a manageable level, I understand too well the limitations some of us have in re library research. In my state, most of the public and university libraries have been horribly cut back in what they can do, especially in the realm of electronic database searching. Although the university with which I'm currently affiliated does have great resources, I know too many other people whose libraries do not, and whose librarians are not able to access information. I think we have to be aware of this (and lobby for increases in state and federal allocations to lib- raries) and be indulgent of some of the requests. I would suggest that people try to do library research first (it's good training, after all), and if they come up empty, then go to the list. I think, however, that many of the questions I've seen posted would be difficult to answer without resorting to the vast expertise present on this list. lin collette Bi599128@brownvm.brown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 08:20:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "NAOMI B. MCCORMICK" Subject: Your recommendations regarding Lesbian literature Dear Colleagues: I teach a Sex Roles and Sexuality class to undergraduates each semester with a heavy emphasis on social science research. To offset the limitations of this kind of literature and to combat homophobia, I have asked students to read and write journals on stories from Joan Nestle's and Naomi's Holoch's (1990) beautifully written anthology, _Women on Women: An Anthology of American Lesbian Short Fiction_. New York: Plume. I really like this book because there is an emphasis on women's diversity-- ethnically, racially, religiously, and in terms of age and S.E.S. But, there are some limitations. For example, there is too little emphasis on Lesbian feminism and the Lesbian/Gay Rights Movement--especially of recent years. And, stories--often about previous historical periods often portray butche/femme roles; this confuses students who have read research suggesting that many or perhaps most lesbian couples reject role playing in intimate relationships. Personally, I like the erotic content of some stories but when the more squeemish students (usually highly religious men) read these, the outcome is sometimes counter-productive for my goal of increasing tolerance of sexual diversity. So--at last, here comes my question. Which books or anthologies of short stories would you recommend that might better meet my educational goals than my current choice? I teach at a public college where most students have limited financial means and there are two other required books. Therefore, I am looking for something contemporary but relatively low in cost (like a paperback). And, I don't want anything too long for students to read (approximately 300 pages of fiction would be ideal) since their workload is so heavy already. By the way, I would welcome books that include fiction on Gay men and bisexual persons, not just Lesbian literature. I am looking for material that doesn't have too much erotic content since that seems to flip out the more prejudiced heterosexual students. Thanks in advance for all your help; I find this list so beneficial. Naomi PS: If you prefer to respond to me personally (as opposed to making a posting on our list), my email addresses follow. ****************************************************************** Naomi B. McCormick Dept. Psychology State University of New York College at Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 USA @@@@@@@@ @@ @@ Telephone (518) 564-3076; 564-3382 @@@ (A A) @@@ FAX (518) 564-7827 @@@ L @@@ % \ {} / % E-mail MCCORMNB@SNYPLAVA.BITNET ---- MCCORMNB@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU | | /******\ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 09:41:28 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: maureen korp Subject: library research If the class I am teaching is small enough (e.g., 20 and not 100), I arrange a session with the reference librarians for my class to be shown the particular indexes, dictionaries, and how-to-use-the-computer stuff that may/should/will be useful to them in the course. This session is held during regular class times, and I go, too (I always learn something I did not know or had forgotten). The typical first-year lirary orientation tour is not nearly enough for students. Many will not take it if it's optional, and if they have taken it, they need reinforcement. For quick and easy fact-checking, I suggest calling the reference desk of the PUBLIC LIBRARY, not the university library. Reference librarians anywhere are service-oriented, highly trained people...quirky, wonderful folks often. Best wishes, Maureen Korp, PhD University of Ottawa mkorp@uottawa or mkorp@acadvm1.uottawa.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 09:21:52 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Moss@HERALD.USASK.CA Subject: Etiquette re Info Requests I too support the use of the list for requests for information when one has not [yet] done a library search. If I am doing research in my own field, or if I am getting into a new research area, I know enough to do library research first (and we have good on-line and CD ROM resources here). However, often I am asked for information on a particular topic, or need to give an informal presentation to a group in an area where I haven't done research. In those cases I find it really useful to get suggestions for key references from those who know the area better than I do. I support John Berg's suggestion that we indicate the level of work already done or the depth and detail of the response we would like. There's also an old saying about not re-inventing the wheel . . . I hope wmst network is one place where we can support each other. I've found it to be so. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Gwenna Moss Internet: moss@herald.usask.ca Extension Division Phone: (306) 966-5573 University of Saskatchewan Fax: (306) 966-5567 Saskatoon, SK, Canada S7N 0W0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:29:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LAURA KRAMER Subject: etiquette, libraries, and resources differences Lin Collette's posting said most of what I had in mind, so I won't repeat it. A few more thoughts on our postings: the success of the list means that if it were routinely used as a quick reference guide, it would sink under an incredible weight of postings; as Joan says periodically, we do not all have the same hardware and/or software available; e.g., if I read from my machine at home I depend on an unreliable modem (very slow too). (others may only have access at work; two weeks ago I logged on on a Monday at 8 a.m. after being off the system since Thursday at 10 a.m., and had 122 messages - I am on one other bboard - even flying through 122 messages takes a lot of time) problems with responding to posters publicly: due often to posters not adequately giving their email address (I've done this ,too) the "I'm interested too, please post to the list response" - how about sending that to the initial poster, rather than to the whole list. then s/he can put together the answers into one file and send it out. I mean this for short responses, and about more specialized questions, not for the meatier responss about obviously more universally salient qs. (like disclosure in the classroom) for some reason, there are often several answers to the same pointed q. (same answers) - can we read through our mail, see the query's been answered, before adding our answer to the mail? (i'm guilty of ths one, too) private responses to answers: some people are incredibly polite, thanking me for the tiniest bit of information; others don't even acknowledge when one digs up stuff... why should we act differently on the net then off? (rhetorical q., making fun of myself for having such expectations) DIFFERENCES IN RESOURCES: I was overwhelmed when I read the posting that said libraries have librarians specializing in WS; our librarians - who are wonderful- operate under dreadful circumstances of understaffing. NONETHELESS (as the early response from a librarian indicated) if we don;'t ask for library support we will not be one of the "squeaky wheels" and the librarians (who are often supposed to count and classify requests for service) will not be able to substantiate claims for WS needs. Excuse the sermonizing, laura kramer@apollo.montclair.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 09:53:37 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MARTINS@SKLIB.USASK.CA Subject: library research vs asking the list I'm a librarian, have a networked terminal on my desk, know how to access library catalogues and indexes all over the world. What I can't get from this set up, and what people on the list often seem to be asking for, is the expert advise of someone who knows the field. I can compile a bibliography of hundreds of items on say, post deconstructive literary criticism, but how do I tell from the listings where I shd start reading? Much better to ask people who already know to give me a handful of refer- ences to things they've already found useful. S A Martin U of Saskatchewan Libraries MartinS@sklib.usask.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:35:19 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ECO_GXC@SHSU.BITNET Subject: RE: library research vs asking the list I read a published research article that, among other things, found that students tended not to characterize a written vignette as sexually harrassing unless they were first cued with the word harrassment. I wrote down the cite and have misplaced it. It's in our library and I can find it again if I have to (our library's holdings are finite so eventually I can look thru everything). But, does anyone know when or where this (or similar findings) was published? -- thanks, gary carson ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 12:58:24 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Kathe Davis Subject: Re: Need Reference In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:13:30 -0500 from Mary, I'm replying publicly because the central question you pose is pertinent to anyone in Women's Studies, which is by definition "inter- disciplinary" relative to academic disciplines as tradtionally consti- tuted (bearing in mind that those "traditions" are not themselves very old). Even leaving out of account the complexities of the Palestinian refugee situation with which you're dealing, the journal's dismissal of context seems extraordinarily benighted. As I understand it (from outside the field), psychology itself has been radically altered precisely by consid- erations of context. One might almost say that, in today's world of theory, context is all. It sounds as if you are doing exemplary work. At the practica l level, I'd say, push this journal as far as you can, then try another journal . Your constellation of concerns is of considerable interest to many in my field, what used to be called "English" -- as the dept still is. Are you familiar with CRITICAL INQUIRY or the more jargon-ridden DIACRITICS? You'll find plenty of intellectual fellowship 'out there.' Elimination of the exclusionist propertarian mindset is itself a big part of what Women's Studies is about. Keep up the good work, and good luck. KDavis@kentvm.kent.ed ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:50:20 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ann Weinstone Subject: Online queries I agree with Marilyn Edelstein. Basically, the list is comprised of queries with a few announcements and issue discussions thrown in. When I post a query, I don't imagine that other members are then going to run around doing research for me. I assume, and hope, that I am tapping into on-hand knowledge. This is the most useful aspect of the list IMHO. Ann Weinstone syd@igc.apc.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 09:50:03 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: laure paquette f Subject: Re: library research In-Reply-To: <9302251543.AA23368@mach1.wlu.ca> I did my degree at Queen's, and the librarians there have a program of in-class library education, along with a very good step-by-step research exercizes appropriate for undergraduates. To be frank, some of the graduate students could have done with the sort of general introduction to research resources: cd-rom, indices, computer searches, citation indices, libnet, etc. It was also developed in a field- or discipline-specific sort of way. Because I haven't asked her permission to offer her as a resource person, I'm unwilling to name the reference librarian here. Individuals may ask, and I'll then contact her. Laure Paquette Politics Wilfrid Laurier University Waterloo, Canada ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 12:53:28 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "m.c. schraefel" Subject: technology/women conference? howdie. a few days ago there was a posting for a women/technology -- who's it hurt, etc conference. when i went to forward it, i nuked it. (don't you hate when that happens) so if anyone who has it, or the original poster could forward the info to me, i would be extremely grateful. thankyou so much for your time.yrs m.c. schraefel, dept. of english, u of victoria, canada mschrae@uvvm.uvic.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 12:45:56 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: laure paquette f Subject: Re: library research vs asking the list In-Reply-To: <9302251834.AA07129@mach1.wlu.ca> I'm a political scientist working in strategic theory, i.e. strategies for minorities, and so I have to be very multidisciplinary in my approach. As a theorist I also need to have access to other people's thinking. I can either read their work or talk to them, and both are important BUT I find that in talking (or e-mailing) with some expert, I can get at the kernel of their accumulated wisdom in a hour or two... something that is sometimes impossible no matter how much of their writing I digest. So... I agree with S.A. Martin from USaskatchewan, and it's a pleasure to hear from our under-appreciated university librarians. Laure Paquette Department of Politic Science Wilfrid Laurier University Waterloo, Canada ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 13:16:31 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Edith Benkov Subject: re: etiquette re: info. requests? In-Reply-To: <9302250523.AA04616@sciences.sdsu.edu>; from "J.BERG@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU" at Feb 25, 93 12:20 am Just to echo John Berg. I don't expect anyone to do my library research for me. I view these requests the same way I might ask a colleague in the hall if he or she had any leads on a subject. One quick answer might save hours of fruitless library time. But unless there is something that needs to be shared with all of us, I would also answer most requests for info privately to avaoid clogging up the system. ebenkov@sciences.sdsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:32:43 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: hwhipple%cfa7.DECNET@CFA.HARVARD.EDU Subject: imaginary languages I have done extensive searches on this topic and have found very little; I'm interested in any source or discussion. I'm researching the use of imaginary or invented or alien languages in fiction. Most of the examples I'm looking at are from science fiction, i.e., what the aliens, as in extraterrestrials, speak, or what the people on the planet an earth person visits speak. I'm familiar with many feminist science fiction sources and I'm interested in learning about any mainstream fiction sources. I'm also particularly interested in learning about any critical studies regarding this topic. As far as I can tell, no one has written about it. Is there any research in linguistics or sociology or psychology regarding translation or multilingual situations which might be pertinent? I'm interested in hearing from any one who has the information at hand/in mind: as per the current discussion about when to look it up yourself, I'm not asking for anyone to do the work for me. Heather Whipple internet: hwhipple@cfa.harvard.edu bitnet: hwhipple@cfa please post responses to me, not the list. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 17:08:01 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jackie Wilkie Subject: the Law and Child Sexual abuse I am posting this for one of my students. She just came to my office and told me a horrifying but all too typical story. She is divorced from her alcoholic, abisive husband and is now fighting over child custody. Her three year old daughter has been sexually molested and she is undergoimg psychological treatment for this. The student with lawyer is attempting to deny her husband custody rights for the obvious reason. She is receiveing little help, however, from the Department of Human Service~p human services. Her most basic concern at the moment is protecting her daugther but human services is not taking her seriously because her husband has charged that she has a psychological syndrome--Munchaussen Syndrome by Proxy ???--she is precisely sure if this is the right label. According to this so called syndrome women hwo were abused as children try to fulfill their own needs for attention by creating false physical symptoms in their children. Basically, we need to know what she is being accused of and if there are any particular precedents or responses we can make to this. We do not have access to a law library etc. but we are working with the local facilities to find out what we can [see I have been paying attention to the recent discussion] but as many have pointed out, in this case we don't know what's worth getting [h [D [D [A [A [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [ C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [f [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [B [ B [B [B [A [A [B [BHELP!!!! wilkieja@luther.uni.edu Jackie WIlkie Luther COllege Decorah, IA ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 15:52:00 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SMITHD@CLARGRAD.BITNET Subject: source I have been asked to provide some useful references concerning the power of naming and also concerning the use of the term "people of color" instead of minority. This is now so much part of my own work that I cannot easily trace any references. Any suggestions? Thank you D. Smith SMITHD@CLARGRAD (Bitnet) SMITHD@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:09:28 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jacquelyn Marie Subject: Re: etiquette, libraries, and resources differences In-Reply-To: (null) Hello all. I very much appreciate everyone's concerns over my message re libraries, librarians, etc. My only wish was to know whether people had checked with their libraries/librarians before posting a question. I am a typical reference librarians who wants to answer every question so I have to restrain myself as we are woefully understaffed and over worked here as well. I certainly see the need for people to respond with ideas or titles of books they have actually used for research or classes. I do hope my words were not perceived as angry or abrupt. I am really friendly and helpful. Also I have seen questions on this list or others from my own faculty that I could have easily answered or started to answer from our collection. Librarians, overworked or not, do appreciate being asked questions. Jacquelyn Marie jmarie@scilibx.ucsc.edu On Thu, 25 Feb 1993, LAURA KRAMER wrote: > Lin Collette's posting said most of what I had in mind, so I won't repeat it. > A few more thoughts on our postings: > > the success of the list means that if it were routinely used as a quick > reference guide, it would sink under an incredible weight of postings; > > as Joan says periodically, we do not all have the same hardware and/or softwar e > available; e.g., if I read from my machine at home I depend on an unreliable > modem (very slow too). > > (others may only have access at work; two weeks ago I logged on on a Monday at > 8 a.m. after being off the system since Thursday at 10 a.m., and had 122 > messages - I am on one other bboard - even flying through 122 messages takes a > lot of time) > > problems with responding to posters publicly: due often to posters not > adequately giving their email address (I've done this ,too) > > the "I'm interested too, please post to the list response" - how about sending > that to the initial poster, rather than to the whole list. then s/he can put > together the answers into one file and send it out. I mean this for short > responses, and about more specialized questions, not for the meatier responss > about obviously more universally > salient qs. (like disclosure in the classroom) > > for some reason, there are often several answers to the same pointed q. (same > answers) - can we read through our mail, see the query's been answered, before > adding our answer to the mail? (i'm guilty of ths one, too) > > private responses to answers: some people are incredibly polite, thanking me > for the tiniest bit of information; others don't even acknowledge when one dig s > up stuff... why should we act differently on the net then off? > (rhetorical q., making fun of myself for having such expectations) > > DIFFERENCES IN RESOURCES: I was overwhelmed when I read the posting that said > libraries have librarians specializing in WS; our librarians - who are > wonderful- operate under dreadful circumstances of understaffing. NONETHELESS > (as the early response from a librarian indicated) if we don;'t ask for librar y > support we will not be one of the "squeaky wheels" and the librarians (who are > often supposed to count and classify requests for service) will not be able to > substantiate claims for WS needs. > > Excuse the sermonizing, laura > kramer@apollo.montclair.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 20:57:50 LCL Reply-To: RGINZBERG@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ruth Ginzberg Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse I am replying to WMST-L rather than privately because I think this sort of (genuinely horrible) situation typifies the sort of bind that feminist faculty find ourselves in all too often. Obviously Jackie Wilkie has a student who is in VERY desparate trouble, and who has turned to her for help. I sympathize FULLY with the inclination to want to help out (who wouldn't?). But I worry A LOT about being sucked into crises which FAR exceed our abilities as academic feminists (or whatever) to deal with them. This is exactly the kind of situation which sends real shivers up my spine. Jackie writes: >I am posting this for one of my students. She just came to my office >and told me a horrifying but all too typical story. She is divorced >from her alcoholic, abisive husband and is now fighting over child >custody. Her three year old daughter has been sexually molested and >she is undergoimg psychological treatment for this. The student with >lawyer is attempting to deny her husband custody rights ... >[...] her husband has charged that she has a psychological >syndrome--Munchaussen Syndrome by Proxy ???--she is precisely sure if >this is the right label. According to this so called syndrome women >hwo were abused as children try to fulfill their own needs for >attention by creating false physical symptoms in their children. >Basically, we need to know what she is being accused of and if there >are any particular precedents or responses we can make to this. We do >not have access to a law library etc. ... Now, I read this gut-wrenching story, and I think, "This could just as easily be my student. In fact, I HAVE had students falling apart in my office with similarly gut-wrenching & horrifying life-experiences. What kind of response can I make to such a situation? I am not a lawyer. I am not a social worker. I am not an expert on child abuse. I am a college professor; how can I help here?" Well, I have learned some research skills, & am fortunate enough to have relatively good on-line searching capacity, so I can look up Munchhausen's Syndrome by Proxy. I'm good at academic library searches. So I did, and I came up with relatively few Medline references to Munchhausen's by Proxy. Here they are: ------------------------ Ruth Ginzberg Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 21:19:07 LCL Reply-To: RGINZBERG@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ruth Ginzberg Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse ooops; rest of my prematurely sent reply to Jackie Wilkie follows. 1. Robert JC; Cremniter D; Lejonc JL. [Munchhausen syndrome]. Presse Medicale, 1991 Apr 20, 20(15):697-700. Language: French. (UI: 91261810) Pub type: Journal Article; Review; Review, Tutorial. Abstract: Munchhausen's syndrome is characterized by fictitious illnesses associated with hospital peregrination, pseudologia fantastica with a mythomanic discourse that includes strongly structured medical elements, passivity and dependance at examinations, and aggressiveness. The whole picture is so typical that the syndrome can easily be recognized. Cases of Munchhausen's syndrome by proxy (Meadow's syndrome) have been reported during the last few years; the condition concerns children suffering from diseases which are entirely due to their parents and can be compared with the battered child syndrome. In terms of nosology, among pathomimias Munchhausen's syndrome figures as a borderline state. Since it is impossible to establish positive relations with these patients, treatment fails in almost every case. Alexander R; Smith W; Stevenson R. Serial Munchausen syndrome by proxy. Pediatrics, 1990 Oct, 86(4):581-5. (UI: 91016694) Abstract: Five cases of Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSBP) are presented in which more than one child in the family was victimized. There was a high incidence of maternal psychiatric histories, marital difficulties, and Munchhausen syndrome in the mothers themselves. Seventy-one percent of the children in the families were known to be victims of MSBP; four of these children (31%) died. Multiple-child MSBP may reflect more significant maternal psychopathology than found in other cases of MSBP, or it may indicate the deteriorating consequences to the mother and other children in the family if this syndrome is not identified with the first child and effective interventions made. Koopman HM; Feenstra J. [Fraud in medicine with the child as victim. Munchausen syndrome by proxy. A review of the literature].Tijdschrift voor Kindergeneeskunde, 1988 Aug, 56(4):141-8. Language: Dutch. (UI: 89020038) Pub type: Journal Article; Review; Review, Tutorial. Abstract: In a review of the literature on the subject 'Munchhausen syndrome by proxy' the authors try to give an impression of the history of diagnosis and treatment of this special kind of child abuse. Particularly aspects of confrontation are discussed. They consider features of the chief actors in this very dramatic play. The authors point to problems in differential diagnosis in the framework of other subjects like 'non-accidental poisoning', 'doctor-shopping' and 'filicide'. They discuss ethical and legal consequences. Anyway, all I wanted to say is that, Jackie, I think this falls outside of the scope of our expertise as women's studies professors. This is big-time serious stuff that these two divorcing people are accusing each other of (each is accusing the other of a particularly heinous form of child abuse). I don't have any idea who is going to win or lose in this case, but my gut instinct is that EVERYBODY is going to lose, & that there is going to be a lot of damage done in the process, not the least of which will be to the 3 year old child involved in this mess. I don't think this is the sort of thing that amateurs should get involved in, and we ARE amateurs in this arena. All of this is just, of course, my own opinion. I wish you and your student peace and strength, whatever happens... ------------------------ Ruth Ginzberg Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 19:17:15 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Linda Stacy Garber Subject: Lesbian Studies Bibliography Several weeks ago I posted a notice about my recently published reference book, *Lesbian Sources: A Bibliography of Periodical Articles, 1970-1990* (730 pages; 3500+ entires; 100+ subject categories; cross-referenced; introduction by Lillian Faderman). Many of you have written to let me know you've requested that your university libraries order a copy. Thank you! The list price of the book is $75 -- prohibitive to most individuals. However, Garland Publishing is about to mail out a flier which offers a 20% discount, making the price $60 plus postage and handling. If you would like to receive this flier, please send your regular U.S. mail address to me at lglg@leland.stanford.edu and I'll add you to the mailing list. Please, only reply if you're seriously interested. Distributing this book is becoming a major administrative project for me, because Garland basically only distributes to libraries. I hope this information is helpful to many of you. Linda Garber lglg@leland.stanford.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 23:54:23 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 25 Feb 1993 17:08:01 CST from re: Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy-- FYI, there has been a well-publicized case of it here on Long Island in recent weeks, with a court decision just being handed down yesterday or the day before. There was no mention of a maternal history of sexual abuse as a child, just the idea that she was manufacturing her kid's "illness" in order to get attention. Child Protective Services took the child from her custody. For more info, see about obtaining Long Island paper NEWSDAY for the last month. Look under Ellen Storck (Mom's name), Judge David Freundlich, Aaron Storck (alleged child victim. How interesting, that the same syndrome is used to remove a child from a woman's custody in one case and to ignore allegations of existent reasons for removing a child from a man's custody in another! Advice: tell the student to try to involve an independent children's rights advocate with a background in child abuse. A profession voice backing up her claim would be highly useful. - Allan Hunter ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 08:16:17 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JLONG@SUVM.BITNET In response to Ruth: it only remains to note that a) this kind of vague diagno stic category lends itself to victim blame and seems to have an affinity for woman-bashing (esp. since women take most responsibility for childcare in most cases); b) consequently it's a place for us to mobilize as feminists, with research skills, expert testimony, feminist one-liners and whatever tools we ha ve developed over the years; c) it's a natural for the network, with its capac ity for quick response and accessible expertise. --JUDY LONG, SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT, SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY -- --103 SIMS IV, SYRACUSE, NY 13244-1230, USA (315)443-4580 -- --Bitnet: JLONG@SUVM Internet: JLONG@SUVM.ACS.SYR.EDU -- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 08:39:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JLONG@SUVM.BITNET Subject: lesbian reference work I have been chidden for not using a subject line, so here is my first effort (self taught). I just tried to respond to Linda Garber at Stanford to request info on the discount price of her book. I blew it --my mail has returned twice . Could Linda (or anyone) resend this info? I tidily delted her msg. once I ha d responded. Many thanx. --JUDY LONG, SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT, SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY -- --103 SIMS IV, SYRACUSE, NY 13244-1230, USA (315)443-4580 -- --Bitnet: JLONG@SUVM Internet: JLONG@SUVM.ACS.SYR.EDU -- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 03:51:09 HST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Amy Kastely Subject: Women's Centers Could someone please tell me where I might get a current listing of the addresses of university-associated Women's Centers? I have not been able to find any listing more recent than 1979 in the library systems. thank you, Amy Kastely Kastely@uhunix.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 07:56:45 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: dklein@TRITON.UNM.EDU Subject: Menopause refs I recently asked for suggested readings on menopause and reimaging this life transition. Several people responded and I would like to share these references with the list. Barbara Walker _The Crone: Woman of Age, Wisdom and Power_ Sharon Golub _Period: From Menarche to Menopause_ Sage: Newbury Park, Ca. 1992 Emily Martin _The Woman in the Body: A Cultural Analysis of Reproduction_ Beacon Press, 1987 Pavelka and Fedigan "Menopause: A Comparative Life History Perspective" _Yearbook of Physical Anthropoloy_ 34:13-38 (1991) Gail Sheey _Passages_ Germaine Greer _The Change_ Margaret Lock "Contested Meanings of the Menopause" _The Lancet_ v. 337 (no. 8752): 1270-1272, May 25, 1991 M. Lock Kaufert and Gilbert "Cultural Construction of the Menopausal Syndrome: The Japanese Case" _Maturitas_ v. 10:317-332 , 1988 P. Kaufert "Menopause as Process or Event: The Creation of Biomedicine Examined" in _Biomedicine Examined_, Lock and Gordon, eds. Boston: Kluwer Academic Publishers, 1988 _Menopause News_ newsletter from 2074 Union Street San Francisco, CA 94123 415 567 2358 _Friend Indeed_ newsletter from Canada Thanks to all of you who responded. ********************************************************************** Deborah Klein Internet: dklein@triton.unm.edu Women Studies Mesa Vista 2136 Phone 505 277 3854 UNM Albuquerque, New Mexico 87131 FAX 505 277 0267 "One can live in the shadow of an idea without grasping it." E. Bowen *********************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 10:23:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Phyllis Holman Weisbard Subject: menopause The next issue of our publication FEMINIST COLLECTIONS (v. 14, #2; Winter 1993) will be a thematic one devoted to reviewing recent books and videos on women in midlife and older women, including some of those mentioned in a previous posting. It will be out in about a month. Subscriptions to FEM. COLLS. (4/yr)/FEMINIST PERIODICALS (4/yr) and NEW BOOKS ON WOMEN AND FEM. (2/yr) jointly are $25 for individuals or nonprofit women's programs and $46 to U.S. libraries and other organizations; check payable to University of Wisconsin-Madison. Price for this issue alone: $2.75. Contact me privately if you would like further information. Phyllis Holman Weisbard (608) 263-5754 Acting Women's Studies Librarian pweis@wiscmacc (Bitnet) University of Wisconsin System pweis@macc.wisc.edu (Internet) Room 430 Memorial Library 728 State Street Madison, WI 53706 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 11:34:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: P_CAPLAN@UTOROISE.BITNET Subject: Re: library research vs asking the list I don't know the exact reference, but I'd refer you to Alison Davidson (phone number: (416) 923-6641, ext.2256) or anyone else at that extension, or leave a message on their voice mail. They run the Women's Caucus Against Sexual Harassment at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education here in Toronto and have an extensive bibliography with which they are very familiar, and they may know. In addition, I'd urge you to leave a message at that same extension for Dr. June Larkin, who is doing a postdoc with me. She just did her doctoral dissertation on sexual harassment of high school girls in schools, having them keep journals, running groups for them, and individually interviewing them, and one of the things she found in her dissert. research and KEEPS finding when she meets with groups of high school young women is that they rarely categorize much as sexual harassment, UNTIL someone starts giving examples of what it is. THEN, they realize that they haven't bothered to call it harassment; what they've called it is "this is what it is like to be female -- or to be a female interacting with males"! Fascinating stuff. They don't have Email, that I know of, or I'd give you that info. Good luck -- Paula Caplan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 10:32:52 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jackie Wilkie Subject: Wilkie's previous message I have received a number of responses to my question about Munhaussen Syndrome by Proxy and I thank all who took the time to respond. About the issue of women's studies faculty taking on more than their academic expertise would warrent--I agree that I am not lawyer, or counselor etc. This was not what my student sought. She is an intelligent adult who sought the kind of expertise I could offer--connections with a wide variety of experts who might be able to help her understand the charges brought against her. She has a lawyer, a support group, continued contact with the local Services for Abused women agency, and a psychiatrist. She wanted my expertise as a researcher. Should we turn people away when they ask for this kind of expert advice if we feel the topic is too personal or controversial? Do we only offer the use of our skills as academics to students who want to research language interaction or feminist science fiction and refuse to help those whose research problems are more immediate and gut wrenching? I would hate to hide behind the facade of the "objective" academic researcher. I do not offer counseling, nor legal advice but if a student has a sexual harassment case, or a rape experience, or whatever I do try to help them find those experts who can help them. I see this issue as one such case. Fir what my two cents is worth. Jackie Wilkie Luther College Decorah IA wilkieja@luther.uni.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 11:48:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: P_CAPLAN@UTOROISE.BITNET Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse How horrible -- the poor woman! I wrote a book called Don't Blame Mother: Mending the Mother-daughter Relationship, which is all about how mothers get blamed no matter what happens. One of the most pernicious forms of this is the use of Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy. Munchausen's Syndrome has a long history and is used to mean, in essence, someone who has a deep psychological need to believe s/he is sick -- so, they are described as people (usually women) who "go from doctor to doctor complaining of symptoms, until they get one who will operate oln them." (often, this means hysterectomies -- just like in the 19th century!) Munch. by Proxy is used (typically in custody cases) to mean the person has a sick need to believe her child is ill (i.e., she imagines it or MAKES the child ill herself). It's been used to mean that the mother is so desperate for attention that she acts as though her child needs help, in order for HER to get attention herself from doctors and therapists. 20-20 did a show recently about a woman in New York whose child was taken away from her due to to this, and the court's decision about whether or not the child will be returned to her is due any day. I called 20-20, because I thought the reseach in my book (I did empirical research on unjustified mother-blame) and my experiences as an expert witness might help, but the lawyer never returned my call. My phone number is (416) 922- 3825 if her lawyer wantsx to talk to me. I have no long distance budget, though, so if they leave a message, they should say whether or not it is OK for me to call them collect. I think this is a dangerous wave that needs to be stopped. Sincerely, Paula Caplan (P.S. I am new at this Email network thing, but please let anyone who needs such help with this diagnosis know what my Email address is, so they can contact me. In a rare case or two, a woman has been videotaped (or some such proof) putting pillows over her child's face in the hospital, so the kid stops breathging and the doctors come running, but in most cases there is NO proof -- in fact, on 20-20 the prosecuting attorney said that PROOF of the mother's "illness" was that the child didn't have apnea when he wasn't at home but was temporarily in hospital for minor surgery. Well, it it possible that his apnea is caused by an allergy or adverse reaction to something in the home's physical environment, etc. Also, the attorney said the apnea "doesnt just disappear" -- yes it does. Most kids who are in danger of crib death from sleep apnea DO grow out of the apnea and don't need monitors any more. The apnea stuff doesn't apply in this case obviously, but I think lawyers ought to be slammed for arguing that the sheer fact that she reports that her child was abused constitutes the PROOF that she has Munch. by Proxy because the absue couldn't really have happened. I also wrote a book called The Myth of Women's Masochism, about how women and girls get blamed (on the theory that they enjoy and bring it on themselves) for their own suffering. This might be useful to her, too. Anyway, this diagnosis is a way of legitimizing the denial of the occurrence of abuse. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 11:51:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: P_CAPLAN@UTOROISE.BITNET Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse I saw a TV show about the Long Island case and phoned the woman's lawyer to offer to help, since I've specialized in work on mother-blame and on I know some about Munch. by Proxy. The lawyer never called me back when I left a message. What WAS the outcome of the case, please? Paula Caplan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 10:14:16 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Mary Roberson \\ 513/229-2166" Subject: Re: Need Reference; Interdisciplinary Work in Disciplinary Journal Recently I asked if anyone knew of any references to the effect that Psychology has more than your usual tendancy not to consider context or the work of other disciplines in their scholarship. Thank you very much for the 3 replies I have received. No references, but anecdotal support. I am writing to correct a misperception that all 3 responders had due to some lack of clarity in my writing of the following sentence in my initial request. >I am in the process of formulating a response to two letters to the >editor, submitted in critique of a journal article on Palestinian >refugee women in a special issue of Women and Therapy. In fact, the article is already published (Volume 13, Numbers 1/2). In addition, it has been published as a book. Two other contributors to the volume wrote letters to the editor after it came out. I wanted to defend the courageous stance of the editors of this journal--Ellen Cole, Esther D. Rothblum-- and guest editor, Oliva M. Espin, for publishing my article. So, please don't hold it against the journal, Women and Therapy. The editors are going to print the letters they received in response to my article. The thrust of the two letters are somewhat different -- i.e., context is inappropriate vs. if you're going to give context, talk about the suffering of Jews as well; the article is "blatantly untrue" vs."while I agree what is written is true, what about the these other facts ..." Although I was very careful to talk about the Israeli government and the Israeli military (vs. Israel), both authors found the article to be anti-Israel. I have been asked to reply to their letters. [I guess I should have stated my own position (i.e., 2 state solution) in the article, but I will in the response.] My response will be printed simultaneously with their letters. So, something good is happening--at least we're debating the issues. Thus, my request for a written reference regarding the "non-contextualness" of psychology. Reportedly, not one of the other articles in the volume explained how the people had become refugees. (I haven't quite finished reading it.) Thanks again. Mary K. Roberson BITNET%"ROBERSON@DAYTON" INTERNET%"ROBERSON@UDAVXB.OCA.UDAYTON.EDU" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 12:38:53 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "MARY BETH PRINGLE MPRINGLE@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU" Subject: Re: WMST Advisory Boards Could the information about advisory boards be posted publically? At Wright State (Dayton, Ohio), we're needing the same information. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 12:44:59 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PRESCOTT@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse On a related note to the whole Munch. by proxy phenomenon, there is also another new category of mental illness that is supposed to describe women who charge their ex-husbands with sexual abuse. I can't remember the name of the disorder, there was an article about it in a recent issue of the "Village Voice," but apparently women who charge sexual abuse are themselves labeled mentally ill and/or vindictive, and often lose their children as a result. Does anyone know the name of the disorder? Thanks, Heather Munro Prescott Central CT State University PRESCOTT@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 11:39:57 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MOLLY FINK Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse Another librarian responding here... If your student needs to find more information about Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy, please have her check at any local college or university library. Psychological Abstracts in either the book format or available on CD ROM has a number of citations to articles dealing with Munchausens. I used a CD ROM search to locate 70 citations, so this is something that is being researched. I too saw the segment on 20/20, and found it to be very frightening. If your local library does not have access to this information, please respond to me personally, and I can send you a list of the citations... I also want to agree with the person who responded by urging caution. Your student can do a lot to find information about Munchausen syndrom. But you must be careful about what kind of advice to give. As a librarian I can say here you go-- this is the kind of research that is being done... But under no condition can I give a patron legal, or medical advice. Please urge your student to take those topics up with the proper authorities. Molly R. Fink Fink@vax.cord.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 14:16:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: 2 more syllabi available Thanks to Linda Garber of Stanford University, two more syllabi have just been added to the SYLLABI FILELIST: FILENAME: DESCRIPTION: WRITING GENDER1 Gender in Writing (frosh composition) WRITERS 18TH_C Restoration and 18th-century Women Writers To obtain a list of all available syllabi, send a mail message to LISTSERV@UMDD or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU that says: INDEX SYLLABI To obtain a specific syllabus, send a message to the same address saying GET [FILENAME] SYLLABI, where "[FILENAME]" is the name of the file you want. For example, GET WRITERS 18TH_C SYLLABI . To obtain more than one file, put each command on a separate line: GET WRITING GENDER1 SYLLABI GET WRITERS 18TH_C SYLLABI GET PSYCH WOMEN1 SYLLABI GET MUSIC PRFRMNCE SYLLABI If you have syllabi in electronic form that you'd be willing to make available in the WMST-L SYLLABI files, send them directly to me in an e-mail message at either of the addresses given with my signature below. The syllabi must be in ASCII format (also known as DOS text format) and must have no lines longer than 75 characters, and each line must end in a carriage return (line feeds don't count). If you have syllabi in Wordperfect or other wordprocessing format, it is easy to convert them to ASCII format. Consult your wordprocessing manual for instructions. If you don't feel able to convert your wordprocessing file into an ASCII file, you can mail WMST-L participant Paula Gaber a computer disk (which will not be returned) with the file in wordprocessing format. She has kindly offered to do the conversion. If you do this, BE SURE TO INCLUDE A NOTE SAYING WHAT WORDPROCESSING PROGRAM THE FILE USES! Send the disks to: Paula Gaber c/o INFO On-line Computer Science Center University of Maryland at College Park College Park, MD 20742 Paula's e-mail address is gaber@info.umd.edu . Two more things: 1) PLEASE BE SURE THE SYLLABUS INCLUDES YOUR NAME AND E-MAIL ADDRESS(ES), THE NAME OF THE INSTITUTION WHERE THE COURSE WAS TAUGHT, AND THE YEAR THE SYLLABUS WAS USED; and 2) if you can, it would be especially desirable if you'd append to the end of your syllabus any projects, assignments, etc. that you used in the course and that worked well. Note: PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PAPER COPIES OF THE SYLLABUS. I have neither the time nor a good enough scanner to convert them to an electronic format. If you have any questions, please contact me privately, not via WMST-L. Thanks again to Linda Garber for these two valuable additions to the WMST-L syllabi collection. ***************************************************************************** * Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu * * U. of Md. Baltimore County Bitnet: korenman@umbc * * Baltimore, MD 21228-5398 * * * * "The only person to have everything done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe" * ***************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 15:22:15 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jackie Wilkie Subject: Advice on using University libraries I woukd like to reassert, based on messages I have been getting in response to my earlier query about resources on MSBP, that this is a tiny liberal arts college 3 1/2 hours away from the nearest university library. My student had done the degree of research possible in the facilities available locally. I posted the request to the list because we needed to know two things 1) had she missed anything important and 2) what did experts think was the appropriate place to start her reading on the subject. John Berg said earlier in the week that for those of us in the less exaulted locations need these kind of discussions precisely because we do not have access to all the resources so many of you kindly sent messages about. One of my frustrations with this list is the sense I get from many of the discussions is of a basic assuption that our programs and institutions are all at the same high level of development. I am the women's studies coordinator in a program that is in its first year. We have a concventration not even a minor because that is all the faculty would approve at this point. To do all the work of coordinating this program and teaching a two credit introduction, I get 1/7 of my seven course, two committe assignment load. This was a quick way to help out a particular student and I took it. wilkieja@luther.uni.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 16:51:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: judith wittner Subject: Political Correctness: Everything isn't data I am the former director of women's studies whom Pauline Bart accused of saying "If women can't take it they should be in therapy, not in class." What I DID say to her was that I didn't believe that faculty should do therapy in the classroom. I regret the necessity of having to discuss private conversations over public E-mail, but I think these kinds of errors ought to be put straight. Judith Wittner Department of Sociology and Anthropology Loyola University Chicago, IL 60626 YLPSJGW@LUCCPUA.IT.LUC.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 15:32:53 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Betty J Glass Subject: Re: etiquette re: info. requests? In-Reply-To: <9302250303.AA10598@equinox.unr.edu> Even if your local library doesn't have a "Women's Studies Librarian," (and few do), check with the collection development librarian to see which librarian performs women's studies collection development. Many librarians interested in women's studies take on enhancement of their library's collection in women's studies in addition to their regular work. This interest and service just doesn't necessarily appear in their position description or job title. Betty Glass Instructional Services Librarian University of Nevada, Reno glass@equinox.unr.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 18:40:40 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: RPARLIN@UMIAMI.IR.MIAMI.EDU Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse The following cases discuss your student's issue in one form or another (I didn't really read them myself). Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance. Commonwealth v. Wall, 413 Pa.Super. 599, 606 A.2d 449 (1992) Fessler v. State Dept. of Human Resources, 567 So.2d 301 (Ala. Civ. App. 1989) Matter of Jessica Z., 135 Misc. 2d 520, 515 N.Y.S.2d 370 (N.Y. Family Ct. 1987) People v. Phillips, 122 Cal.App.3d 69, 175 Cal.Rptr. 703 (1981) Crocker v. State, 573 S.W.2d 190 (Tex.Cr.App. 1978) Ruth Parlin Head of Reference University of Miami Law Library 305/284-3585 rparlin@umiami.ir.miami.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 20:39:04 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Chris Delbes Organization: The American University Subject: A few things Sorry I couldn't be specific with my subject heading, but I do have a few things. First of all, THANK you very much again to all of you who have taken the time and --a lot of -- energy, I know, to respond to my questionnaire on feminism and marriage. Again, I am THE only person going over them and they are STRICTLY confidential. Now, because I've received so many more requests for it than initially (and once more you are all leading my research and changing it -- and I love it to watch its changes), the two week original deadline got lost in the process. So if any of you, who are looking at it discouraged at it length, please try again. I am still taking them and appreciate every one of them. Of course, that means it will take longer for me to share the results, but we are getting used to my dealines, right? Another thing, some people have shared some discomfort disclosing their names. Please feel free to send it anonymously, if that's preventing you from sharing your thoughts with me. Thanks again to you all, wonderful women (just women are responding. This is not a sexist remark :) Chris ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 20:46:21 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Chris Delbes Organization: The American University Subject: Naomi Wolf This is much more specific. Naomi Wolf, author of the Beauty Myth, and Radical Heterosexuality, an article that was on Ms., which is my main interest has asked someone at her office to call me today, since I sent her the questionnaire oin feminism and marriage. She is unable to respond because of deadlines but if I had any question, etc., to please call. Well, the woman forgot to leave a phone number. Last time, I sent the letter to Ms. and they forwarded to her. I would appreciate, especially you New Yorkers, if you could help me with a more direct office phone number, address, and preferably fax number. Please respond privately. I would like very much to send a note to her assistant if I can't get to Naomi hereself. Thanks. Chris ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 20:50:51 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Kay L Gable Subject: Re: lesbian reference work In-Reply-To: from "JLONG%SUVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU" at Feb 26, 93 08:39:00 am Judy, I blew it --my mail has returned twice > . Could Linda (or anyone) resend this info? I tidily delted her msg. once I h a Don't feel bad about blowing it twice, Judy. I blew it once, and had to remail it. It's frustrating, to say the least. Mine was due to a spelling error in the address. I can send the information you requested to Linda. I copied her address down on paper so I would remember it. I'll put your Internet address down, since that's what I use, and ask her if she'd respond to you for your home address. OK with you? Kay gablekl@ucunix.san.uc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 23:05:18 EST Reply-To: lcrew@andromeda.rutgers.edu Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Directory of Lesbian & Gay Scholars The following message, written by Louie Crew, was distributed earlier today by COMSERVE, the organization housed at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute that sponsors a large number of electronic resources and lists, including GENDER. If you choose to fill out the form below, please send it to lcrew@andromeda.rutgers.edu, not to WMST-L. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc *************************************************************************** Electronic Directory of Lesbian & Gay Scholars Submitted by: Louie Crew I have compiled an E-Mail Directory of Lesbigay Scholars, with now more than 100 persons listed. To be included, fill out the form below and return it to me: lcrew@andromeda.rutgers.edu Do NOT send by snail mail. The E-Directory helps lesbigay scholars connect regarding on-going manuscripts, conferences, and other scholarly projects. I send the Directory to all who agree to be listed, with updates individual by individual. I also make available to one e-mail address by which those listed can post announcements of interest to the entire group. But this is not a discussion list per se--rather, a resource list. Please share this announcement with any friends who might be interested and with any other e-networks where forthright lesbigay scholars might assemble qua scholars. Thank you. Louie Crew Author/editor of _The Gay Academic_ and 950+ others Co-founder of the Lesgay Caucus of the National Council of Teachers of English Founder of Integrity, the lesgay justice ministry of the Episcopal Church Academic Foundations Department, Rutgers University/Newark (Snail mail: P. O. Box 30, Newark, NJ 07101) ============================================================================ Entry Form for E-Directory of Lesbigay Scholars Name: Institutional affiliation: Department: Position: E-mail address(es): Snail mail: Phone(s) FAX: Citations of a sample of yr. previous lesbigay scholarly projects: List/description of yr. on-going lesbigay scholarly projects: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 12:21:30 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Sarah M. Pritchard" Subject: women's centers For a list of university-affiliated women's centers (and a ton of other information on women's organizations, libraries, scholarships, shelters, and more), the new WOMEN'S INFORMATION DIRECTORY, edited by Shawn Brennan and published by Gale Research is quite good. See in particular Chapter 6 for women's centers at universities. Although they started with the NWSA list, a lot of the information was updated in the editing process which took place in 1992. I worked on some of the other chapters in this book and while it is not perfect (and it is nigh impossible to keep a work of this type up-to-date), it's a big improvement over anything else available. Sarah Pritchard Smith College Libraries spritchard@smith.smith.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 12:53:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PARKER@UMBC.BITNET Subject: Re: women and popular culture Can anyone give me information on a group called the Riot Grrs? I don't know anything more about the group but a number of students have asked me about them. References, addresses etc would be very helpful Barbara Parker PARKER@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU (Bitnet) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 12:55:45 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ST1XT@JETSON.UH.EDU Subject: Re: the Law and Child Sexual abuse _The Child Abuse Industry_ gives a good overview of the problem. Just don't expe ct the system to act in the best interests of anyone except itself. Laws are structured so as to invite misuse. Good luck, Phillip Scott in%"st1xt@jetson. uh.edu" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 13:16:36 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ST1XT@JETSON.UH.EDU Subject: Re: Wilkie's previous message Given a teacher's lack of counselling or other psychic ability, it's impossible to know the extent of the student's case when only one side is presented. A referral to another agency is what I've wound up doing, hopefully with better results. Phillip Scott, University of Houston in%st1xt@jetson.uh.edu" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 15:33:21 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Converted from OfficeVision to RFC822 by PUMP V2.2X From: Linda Lopez McAlister Subject: New Film Review Added: Passion Fish On Saturday, February 27, 1993 I broadcast a review of "Passion Fish" on "The Women's Show" a feminist magazine-format program on community radio station WMNF-FM (88.5) in Tampa, Florida (70,000 watts of power to the people!). It is now available from the FILM FILELIST. To obtain a copy of this review send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet): GET FILM REV66 FILM To obtain a list of all the film reviews available, send a message to the same listserv address that says: INDEX FILM To get more than one review, put each command on a separate line: GET FILM REV6 FILM GET FILM REV14 FILM GET FILM REV39 FILM The number of files you can request on any calendar day is limited to twenty. The opinions expressed in these reviews were mine when I wrote the review and represent one woman's opinion at a particular time.We have over 1300 subscribers to WMST-L so there are probably 1299 other views. If you would like to share yours, please do NOT do so on the WMST-L itself, but send your messages to me personally at the addresses below. I have appreciated the feedback I've received. Thanks. Linda Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA: A Journal of Feminist Philosophy Women's Studies Dept. Internet: DLLAFAA@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU Univ. of South Florida Bitnet: DLLAFAA@CFRVM Tampa, FL 33620 (813) 974-5531 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 15:45:45 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: KATHLEEN GILBERT Subject: Understanding where the limits are I've been reading with a great deal of interest the various threads of electronic conversation on this list regarding the business of setting limits on our relationship with students. I am, by the way, the person who posted the original question to the list regarding how people go about deciding how to deal with student who bring their personal problems/issues to us as (in their eyes) trusted experts. My original post came actually more out of curiosity than anything else. One feeling that I registered as I read the messages that were posted to me was one of support and encouragement. This was especially true of those posted to me privately. That is a wonderful psychic environment to be in and I want to thank everyone for that. Now, the underlying theme of the postings was that we should be cautious--and, especially aware not to confuse our role of informational resource with that of therapist, lawyer and/or physician (the last two I took from the discussion related to Jackie Wilkie's post). At the same time, it is difficult for us all to determine where the boundaries exist. I've had students drop in to get suggestions about things they might read to understand how to deal with their problem. I don't think of this as counseling, even if I ask about their situation in order that I might target their reading or refer them to a support group or a therapist. It's rare that a student will come through the door and say, "My boyfriend threw me into a wall last week, what should I do?" On relationships and have a student or two come and ask if there's anything else they might read about the topic. By saying, "Tell me a little bit more and I'll see if there's a better resource that I can hood you up with," I have learned enough to connect students up with a short, non-credit, "communication skills for couples" class, or a therapist, or the domestic violence support group run by the local women's shelter. I have developed a standardized format in dealing with the situation. At the beginning of the semester, I let the class know that I am not a therapist, I am a teacher--an information conduit. I also let them know that, given the way the class is taught, it may trigger an emotional reaction on their part. I _do_ encourage them to come and talk to me if they have a problem with the course content, but I let them know that I will do this in the role of "information resource person" -- NEVER as a therpist. Even if I was trained in those skills, the dual role of therapist (which encourages sharing) and teacher (which is based on evaluation) would be too much for me to keep straight. So I don't "therapize." I do, however, chat with my students. But I do it with clear, public limits placed on myself and the student. I _never_ start talking to a student who says she or he has a personal problem (or a question about "how this stuff works") without reminding that student that I am not a counselor and, should I become concerned, I tell her/him that I reserve the right to refer her/him to someone. I will stop a conversation in midstream if I feel that the student is has this as her/his hidden agenda. The student also has to acknowledge that this is a part of our agreement, or I stop. This may seem heartless, and I may be bluffing somewhat, but I think their best interest is served by talking to someone who is trained and has the ability to establish a therapeutic contract and work through a developmental process of respoving whatever they have to cope with. I keep a list of referral resources in the community (the local students' psych. services are abysmal, unfortunately, and most students who've gone there before they talk to me absolutely, adamently refuse to go back.) I'm sure that this is several screens long, and I apologize for that. I hope what I've posted will be useful to some of you. If not, I hope I haven't given you an eyestrain headache! I'd appreciate more input from others. Thanks, Kathy Gilbert GILBERTK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU 812-855-5209 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 17:43:23 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SUSAN SWARTZLANDER Subject: Understanding where the limits are I think your response is not only reasonable, but also quite responsible. I applaud your sensitivity and commitment to your students. Two colleagues and I recently published an opinion piece in the CHRONICLE OF HIGHER ED. about this issue as it applies to required self-revelation in writing, especially in required courses. Our title, "Enforced Intimacy and Transgressed Boundaries" (changed by the CHRONICLE) says it all. I'm an English prof. who had been feeling uneasy about what I was seeing and hearing from students in the last 10 years at 3 different universities. My worst fears were confirmed by my two colleagues, counselors in our campus counseling center. They recounted stories of students revealing too much to professors and then just dropping the course when embarrassment set in, or, worse yet, someone attempting to conduct after class "counseling sessions" on incest because the instructor had been a victim. The students felt coerced to talk, and the instructor, who thought she was helping, soon got in over her head. You're absolutely right about the difficulty of defining the boundaries. But at least we're beginning to say there are boundaries. Not everyone understands the damage we can do without ever knowing it! My colleagues and I have taken quite a barrage of criticism for our CHRONICLE piece (and it has only been out two weeks!), but we've also received some incredibly poignant thank you letters from across the country. If others would be interested in continuing to discuss the issue, I would love to hear your opinions about it. Thanks, Sue (AKA SWARTZLS@GVSU.EDU) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 15:08:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Judith E. Jacobs" Subject: Re: etiquette re: info. requests? When I made request for info I was as much interested in who knew about my field as I was in the info received. I think info requests should be a main function of WMST-L. I thank all who responded to my request re: math and feminist pedag ogy/methodolgy. Judith Jacobs JEJACOBS@CSUPOMONA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 22:25:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Plans for Women's History List I've just received the following message about plans for a women's history list. I have no further information. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc *********************************************************** Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 20:15:30 -0600 Sender: HistOwnr - Discussion list for owners of history-related lists From: CAMPBELLD%APSU.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: H-Net sponsoring "H-Women" on women's history A. The H-Net project of the History Department, U of Illinois-Chicago, is trying to set up H-Women, an international electronic mail list for women's history. Membership will be free and open; access will be through Internet, Bitnet, and (if we get the software to work) through a direct dial phone number to Chicago (we will ask NEH for some $ for an 800 number). B. The list will feature contributions like syllabi, outlines, handouts, bibliographies, guides to termpapers, listings of new sources (archives, books). People will write in with questions, comments, and reports. H-Women will post announcements of conferences, fellowships etc. (We are negotiating as well with CCWHP/CGWH to put their newsletter on line.) We expect many messages at first will be the "how can I do this with my computer" variety, and also "where can I locate such-and-such." C. H-Women will start up over the summer, and be operated as a "LISTSERV" from the U of Illinois-Chicago mainframe. That means that after people subscribe they will automatically receive messages sent out by the moderator, and they can reply directly. 1. Eventually H-Women will build up an electronic archive of files (those bibliographies etc) that anyone can download. D. We are asking for $2000 from our campus board to hire a graduate student to actually operate it. The list will be moderated and we need an editorial board to advise the moderator/editor. We need names of suitable historians for the editorial board. === Richard Jensen campbelld@apsu for further information, e-write Wendy Plotkin at u15608@uicvm ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1993 22:31:46 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHIL8@JETSON.UH.EDU Subject: Re: wmst and new technologies 1234567890-=][po Anne Jaap Jacobson Department of Philosophy University of Houston Houston, TX 77204-3785 E-Mail PHIL8@JETSON.UH.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 10:33:27 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PREAVES@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: women and popular culture Dorthy Parker asks: >Can anyone give me information on a group called the Riot Grrs? I don't know the dates but a recent article in the Washington Post by Lauren Spencer calls the Riot Grrls, " a new, rocking breed of feminist...with an aggressive do-it-yourself punk ethic" As I understand it Riot Grrls are a movement with their own bands and " 'zines". Riot Grrl bands include Fugazi, Bikini Kill, Hole, Mecca Normal. An article in the Oklahoma City newsletter, "Herland Voice", quotes Erika Reinstein, a 20 year old Washington D.C. Riot Grrl, "Because we are being divided by our labels and philosophies and we need to accept and support each other as girls, acknowledging our differend approaches to life and accepting all of them as valid. Because we need to acknowledge that our blood is being spilt... We are the revolution." This is about all I know about the movement, I'd be interested if you get other responses with more direct experience. Pat Reaves PREAVES@delphi.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 10:02:31 -0800 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Christine Morton Subject: feminist journalist seeking info on Finland & Germany Hi there A friend of mine who is finishing up a journalism degree from Columbia Univ in NYC is applying for travel grants. She wants any hot information on Finnish women in politics and /or women's issues in Germany, particularly having to do with abortion, birth control, childcare and feminism. She's under a deadline and needs this information as soon as possible. I'm typing this for her as she is suffering from carpal tunnel syndrome...and she hasn't yet subscribed to WMST-L.... Please post responses to the list or directly to her : Theta Pavis Weil, internet address: trp4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu If you post to the list, I'll forward the mail to her. Thank you very much. Christine Morton morton@math.ucla.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 16:11:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Women and Media in Canada A long (>500 lines) message appeared earlier today on GENDER describing a special issue of the Electronic Journal of Communication; the topic of the special issue is "Women and Media in Canada: A Feminist Sampler." The announcement included abstracts of the articles and instructions for obtaining them. To make this announcement available to WMST-L readers who want it, I have added it to the WMST-L filelist under the name MEDIA CANADA. To get a copy of this file, send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet): GET MEDIA CANADA WMST-L If you wish to get a list of all the WMST-L files, send listserv the 2-word message INDEX WMST-L Please remember to send these messages to LISTSERV, not WMST-L. DO NOT HIT REPLY!! Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 21:19:26 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: phoebe morgan stambaugh Subject: last call for asc papers on sexual harassment CALL FOR PAPERS The Annual 1993 Meeting of the American Society of Criminology October 29th-30th in Phoenix, Arizona PANEL TOPIC: SEXUAL HARASSMENT PANEL ORGANIZER: PHOEBE MORGAN STAMBAUGH SUBMISSION DEADLINE: MARCH 8TH If you would like to present a scholarly paper on the topic of sexual harassment at the 1993 annual meeting of the ASC, please send an abstract or completed paper to Phoebe Morgan Stambaugh no later than March 8th. While all papers addressing the issue of sexual harassment will be considered, panel participants are encouraged to expand the parameters of the current debate(s) by introducing into the dialogue other timely issues. Suggested subtopics of particular interest are: (1) homophobia (2) ethnicity and/or racism (3) political correctness, (4) the condition of postmodernity. Inquiries and abstracts can be submitted via email, FAX or U.S. Mail: Phoebe Morgan Stambaugh The School of Justice Studies Arizona State University Tempe, Arizona 85287-0403 phone: (602) 965-7682 FAX: (602) 965-9199 ************************************************************ SASH-L SOCIOLGISTS AGAINST SEXUAL HARASSMENT DISCUSSION LIST or Phoebe Stambaugh, list moderator or ************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 20:27:02 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "m.c. schraefel" Subject: Re: New Film Review Added: Passion Fish In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 27 Feb 1993 15:33:21 EST from now if i'd only read down to marc's mail i'd have seen he wrote what i just did. sorry. to make up for the waste of you time, may i recommend a terrific news list for mac enthusiasts? adam c engst's "tidbits" is fantastic. all the rumours with as much confirmation as possible about life at apple; excellent product reviews and a consistent distribution: every two weeks a fresh edition of tidbits. it's terrific. if you'd like to subscribe to check it out send Listserv@ricevm1.bitnet a SUB tidbits your name message, and away you'll be. yours, mc ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 20:30:42 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "m.c. schraefel" Subject: Re: New Film Review Added: Passion Fish In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 27 Feb 1993 15:33:21 EST from oh god, stupid me. sorry. just sent a note to the entirely wrong list! of course if any one here is into mac's that last message may be pertinent... yurs m